Quick check of the ATX against the GPX5000

[stalker]

No wolf .. I'm not. . But the video and pic belongs to him ..
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[Kingsolomon]

So the atx works on small gold? Looks like it...I watched a vid awhile back , looks easy to use and has very different audible sounds for targets ... Still , might stick with the 4000.

 

[Goldtarget]

Please be advised as I see the relevance of sub gram discussion in relation to the machines, but, and i mean no offence here, but why would anyone want to pick up sub grammers? I'm fairly sure that would become pretty exhausting after a while. I'm thinking patch cleaning starts to take on a whole new dimension if you start digging for something like that. Still i guess all gold is good gold.

 

[Goldpick]

The 8" mono is also by far the most sensitive coil on the Infinium as well, probably only fair to compare the gpx with atx, both running 8" monos vs the stock 12" DD on the ATX.

 

[stalker]

I'd like to see the comparison on the 8" coils .. sure would be interesting to see.

 

[Nugget]

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z198/ivanll/P5027887_600.jpg

It's best not to link to ivanll's content for a couple of reasons.. 1. he tends to regularly delete content from his account leaving gaps in posts, 2. there's a good chance he'll threaten legal action for using his content without permission.

 

[Tassie Daz]

Yeh, I agree GT I could scratch around all day long for a sub-grammer. I reckon the issue here is finding new ground and then sweeping it clean. Sub-grammers are fine if the recognized goldfields are the only place to go, but then you are only one of hundreds who are continually at the place looking over the same place. The art to this pastime is to find new ground and the only way to do that is to be able to get new land opened up to the recreational fossicker so that he /she can enjoy that pastime. If there are full time prospectors amongst the forum then I know that will upset some, but the aussie open spaces are for all to enjoy. [That said, I don't know how it could be policed anyway!]

 

[Guest]

HI Tassie Daz,

My first love is the drive to the Golf Fields where I am able to wind down from the demands of work.
While I am up here I then delve into my hobby. A good example is driving to Nagambie then turning left
and heading towards Graytown. Its a surreal world where your surrounded by the peace and tranquility and
with the abundance of wildlife including the birds.

For me I don't have an issue detecting over ground that has been detected previously.

By someone prospecting one area it does not mean all of the gold is gone especially where the ground can be
super hot such as some areas around Talbot and Maryborough here in Vic where the soil is orange.

A number of factors also contribute to this which includes which coil you use eg mono or dd,
swing speed, coil height from the ground and coil size choice then you have 2 important factors that includes
experience and confidence in your equipment.

 

[Goldtarget]

Ever had any really good days out that way Wolf? Its further south than i normally venture but have had a few reports of good finds, I'm guessing due to the fact its not as well known for producing as say the whipsticks etc, and less detector traffic.

 

[Guest]

Ever had any really good days out that way Wolf? Its further south than i normally venture but have had a few reports of good finds, I'm guessing due to the fact its not as well known for producing as say the whipsticks etc, and less detector traffic.

I only did coin detecting up that way but will go back soon as I want to see what my Tom D tuned Fisher CZ3D can find.
Its one of the best for old deep coins you can use and punches deep.

 

[Redfin]

pmcoils

these are being made / sold by "pennyweight" (andrew overton) do some research on him [google "pennyweight coils"] and make up your own mind.

 

[trenchfighter]

not good....not good at all....and to think i was getting all excited about a new coil for my finni

 

[Steve Herschbach]

Hi Wal,

Have you had the chance to test the 2 machines with Mono coils fitted to both? Or have I missed the report?

Cliff

Jeff and I are doing the final tests on the 5th of April and the vid edit will take about a week. We have had to coordinate suitable times for testing and as such it has not been a speedy progress, nor did we want it to be.

Cheers Wal.

Whatever happened to this video? I was looking forward to it so much I had to join the forum just to ask!

 

[Guest]

Welcome to the oz forum Steve, bout time you joined up!
I guess a few of us are still waiting for the video but there too busy finding yellow.

 

[dwt]

Ok just had to jump in and clear some miss conceptions about this machine.
this information has been provided by my brother who is in the industry and flies all over the world working in mines and prospecting.
He is a fitter and specialises in repairing and setting up mines. Hes been to mongolia PNG ,many countries and all over australia.

Here is his info he has passed onto me.
1. the GPX and ATX cannot be compared
2.They are different machines built differently to the way they find gold.
3. The GPX 5000 has a major flaw, Even admitted by Minelab. in regards to missing certain nuggets in certain soil conditions. (kalgoolie wa, Southern NSW snowy region) the ATX found them when the minelab didnt.
4.The 5000 is way overpriced for the technology involved .
5. The ATX is using different electronics to get the machine to work better at ground balancing and how it finds the gold. I wont go into details here as the info is available from them...they have their own techs doing great stuff.
6. the ATX is waterproof so this itself matters to the design of the unit. If you need your detector to be waterproof then there is no question its the better of the 2.
7. Having tested thoroughly in all world conditions By my brother..the ATX found just as much gold as the 5000..in highly mineralised ground high in iron, the ATX outperformed the 5000. and in water conditions and very high salt the ATX out performed the 5000. in snow...yes snow the ATX won hands down.
8. the ATX is a better beginner detector, Feedback from his students and people he trains in mines.
9.Sales of the 5000 have dropped significantly worldwide and not just because of unrest in african countries.
10. Minelab are working to release a detector similar to the ATX...price wise and use wise.

His fair dinkum know crap analasys of his work with minelab and ATX have come to the conclusion.."buy whatever unit fits your budget as they are as good as each other and as bad as each other. if waterproof is needed the ATX hands down, If your rich.. buy a 5000. if you dont like wearing all the gear get a ATX. if you need to smuggle your detector somewhere illegal get an ATX. if your simple..Get an ATX. if you are putting in mega hours and are preparred to learn the 5000 then get one. If you are anal and want to be part of the 5000 group..get one. if your sensible and are on a budget get an ATX

NOTE: i do not condone illegal practises..well in regards to prospecting anyway..

bottom line with everything in life. do your own research buy the one that suits you.. But i can go on great word from a dead set life long expert in gold recovery who has used probably every detector out there for years both units are great.

its not the unit its how you understand it. There are many professionals who own stores , are known people and who frequent wa etc and have all the whizz bang stuff and will force a 5000 on you.. id sooner take a proper review from someone i trust someone who has actually used them around the world and here in oz..

ASK the question. how many of you 5000 guys have actually used it in the snowy mountains southern nsw area....try ground balancing one in certain places here if you dont know what you are doing.

Please note i am no way representing either manufacturer or that i even really care. just putting in some words from my brother..A proper expert.

Any way my last 17g in nuggets was found in the ingebrya state forest just out of jindabyne without a detector or sluice... just by studying the land and using old age information..and digging a hole..

Howdy Jindy Gold being a 5000 owner and keen prospector I find your comments a little harsh, I saved and sold a lot of gear to purchase a 5000, which certainly doesn't put me in the category of ANAL or part of the 5000 group, I go out detecting with a mate who uses a SD2100
I appreciate the fact that your brother has detected so far and wide with all makes and models,but when you say he is a fitter and specialises in setting up mines...........so not only dose he work in the workshop (fitter) repairing machinery, he also (setting up mines) operates a twin boom jumbo to take a portal cut, charges and fires (which would mean a black ticket holder), jumps in a 2900 elphinstone and bogs the heading, runs the air and water services, installs the primary ventilation system, fresh air and return air, builds primary ventilation lock doors and DBR's, all this while tending his responsibilities as a fitter..... If he is ever looking for work in Australia tell him to PM me a copy of his resume, I and others are currently installing a quad style primary ventilation system at the moment and could of done with a fitter on hand to get our Volvo IT up and running.

 

[Steve Herschbach]

"1. The GPX and ATX cannot be compared"

That is the silliest thing I have heard in some time. I own both and have compared them extensively. I really like my ATX but if my wife told me I had to get rid of one or the other I would be keeping the GPX. Thankfully she spoils me so I get to keep both and that is good. My ATX has paid for itself in jewelry finds alone. The GPX really, really sucks at underwater detecting!

 

[Guest]

Lol' Steve there's a lot of silly comparisons going on at the moment not just between higher priced units but at the end of the day untill ford or holden closes there will continue to be bar fights over which ones faster and better' it's an ego thing! We can't help it. The GPX is on top but for how long' well it's getting competitive out there.

 

[GoldCheddar2005]

Hi Some of you are not convincing me to part with my precious money! On price the ATX, and I have access to my brothers SD2100.

I certainly cant afford a GPX, you haven't pried $$$$ out of my hand to give to the guy the owns miners den. There is a few machines in the next price bracket that somebody could persuade me to consider. So I wish, amongst the negativity, someone would give the positives in buying the Garrett.

Does that make sense?

 

[slipped disc]

At the end of the day, some people can find gold, without a detector. it's called old fashioned prospecting.
I don't think the gpx 5000 is worth the money. obsolete technology,overpriced. IMHO.

 

[GoldCheddar2005]

Yeh, I agree GT I could scratch around all day long for a sub-grammer. I reckon the issue here is finding new ground and then sweeping it clean. Sub-grammers are fine if the recognized goldfields are the only place to go, but then you are only one of hundreds who are continually at the place looking over the same place. The art to this pastime is to find new ground and the only way to do that is to be able to get new land opened up to the recreational fossicker so that he /she can enjoy that pastime. If there are full time prospectors amongst the forum then I know that will upset some, but the aussie open spaces are for all to enjoy. [That said, I don't know how it could be policed anyway!]

I like what you've said here Tassie Daz.. Although you are a long way, away. I am wanting to prove the potential in Dittmer Creek to be opened to PA prospectors only. Although well picked, it is still very wild and untapped. Just ask XIV. Very unprofitable for commercial interests with the last leaseholders bankrupt, the leases I imagine will go back to state control. Therefore if we can prove a niche tourism prospect, without tour operators becoming obsessed with money, the likelihood of Dittmer being turned over for niche business and getting it managed by the landholders out there in the way of a couple of PA only camps each year. Strick rules being adhered to. Preference is to keep it a low key thing amongst PA members.

Your thoughts>

GoldCheddar