mbasko said:
Ridge Runner said:
And Borrowed/Stolen what ever you would prefer to call it Tecnology from Eric Foster and Reg Sniff is not a thing to be proud of but without it It would be nothing but just another blue box
Just to clarify for people Minelab aren't the only ones using "Eric Fosters" technology. All pulse induction technology regardless of Minelab, Garrett, Whites would no doubt have stemmed in some way from his work & others that worked on PI technology in Europe in the 60's. Not sure what Minelab stole/borrowed from Reg Sniff though?
Bruce Candy himself would have contributed enough to the ongoing development, research, improvement of this technology; like people in similar positions at Garrett/Whites etc.; to be considered an important player in the field. The difference is Bruce Candy has been at the forefront in the development, research & improvement allowing Minelab to stay ahead of the competition.
Throwing words around like "stolen" may not be wise & further makes me believe RR that you may be a member of that "Minelab Haters" club? All detector companies would have used it to some effect I would think?
In short without Eric Foster modern day PI technology may not be a reality regardless of brand, although Eric wasn't the only one looking at it - just the most innovative one at the time. Without people like Bruce Candy (& others at Garrett, Whites etc.) that PI technology may not be as good as what it is today or would continual improvement/innovation be strived for.
Yes Others are using Eric Fosters Technology, But they Actually asked Eric For the Help along with Some of his Designs Such As Ground Tracking And Not Just claim it as there own work.
Mimelab Are GOOD, I have owned many of there machines including one of their GP Series In Two Years I spent over $20,000 on their Detectors and if it Did not have a Minelab Logo on it I would not Buy it. As A company I was Very Proud Of Minelab,
So far your Comment are more Directed about ME and Name Calling and again Not The Subject, I'm Not A MineLab Hater as you Call Me,
After I said about they don't work in EU Countries You went on to say (they buy one that is made for the EU) And if they Knew that they were not suitable why Market them there, and that's all very well, But when the Dealers Swear Black was Blue that they Are what you need and are insistent about it and you Trust these people the options get less and less, Somewhere I Have some Minelab Catalogues that had to be Re-called due to False Claims and they had to get them reprinted.
The Best Machine at the Time for coins and Relics was the Minelab Musteteer it was Deep Fast and although it ran at 5khz it found the smallest piece of metal I have found to Date, and it took me 20 mins to find it with a pinpointer, So I kept it as a Test Piece for Coils/Machines,
Then I asked the Dealers about Iron rejection and I bought the Sovereign GT Which to this Date I have yet to find a Machine that could match it's depth, Using the standard 10"Coil in DISC I found the Base of a Toy lead Soldier measuring 32mm x 9mm giving a very strong signal and when I dug it IT was 17" Down, Now I don't care If you use a PI or a 2 box locator, That's Still A Record in My Books.
The Sovereign GT is a Pain in the Backside and yet it is a fantastic machine. But It is almost useless over here except on the Beach, Why??
Because of that Damn Iron Mask that Has an On off Switch but when you Turn it Off It is Not Disabled which means that During a slow Sweep speed the Coil can Be 2 to 3 feet away from the Target Because the Recovery speed is the Worst of Any Machine, So To Give it a Helping hade I bought 3 Smaller Coils for it and that did not work, Then I bought an E-Trac and yes it had power but after going over a pegged out area after months of use I noticed right from the start that it would give up to 14 sets of Numbers when it ID'd an Item, and with common Items I wrote down the Numbers and search the pegged out area Again,
So with that I took Both Machines and the Coils to my Mates house and we did some testing, Then he said hang on and Came Back with an MXT, He put a find Gold Chain on the Ground and I put Joey Coils on The GT and The E-Trac and neither one Could see it, He turned on the MXT and Bang Every Time, So I went home and then to the Detecting Shop and Bought the MXT 300 Yep the 12" coil Version, Next day wondering what I had done and Feeling Guilty for Owning A NON Minelab Product, I swept the area, IN the First 4 foot sweep of the Coil I found 2 Gold Rings and a Gold Bar, Now By rights because of the junk every 3 to 6 inches that thing should not of worked very well, By the end of the First week I had found more Items of Value than I did in 6 years of owning my Pride and Joy Minelab Machines, The Place I tested it has been hit with every detector from the past 46 years.
Now Talking to the Head of Minelab R&D Dept EU, He Told me that when they were Designing the XTerra Range that they Got an MXT and Reversed Engineered It to see Why it was so Hot on Gold and it's Ground Tracking abilities and what made it Tick.
So don't Tell me That MineLab are the Leaders of Detecting Technology, when In Fact they use other Peoples Technology and workout A way how they Can incorporate it into Their Products and then ReName IT,
So Lets RE-Cap here,,,,We have Eric Forster's system in the PI Machines without Permission
Now for the VLF's.... Who Was the Lead Engineer on the MXT/GMT Program?? Oh That's Right, It Was Dave Johnson.
Can you see a Patten Forming Here ????
It's not about Hating Minelab I put 6 years of my Life into using Minelab Products and in the first two Years over $20,000 on Detectors plus about 3 or $4,000 on accessories.
Oh and while we are at IT, The Person who Gave Bruce Candy that award 3 or 4 years ago is a Relative of Mine,. (JP was there also)
To The Original OP, I am So Sorry For being Part of the Reason in Distroying you Thread/Topic, and I am Sure mbasko feels the Same???
