1831 Shilling

Found this today with the Nokta simplex. Can't seem to find any 1831 shillings with the queen to compare it to for valuation. Any ideas?

Not that I'll be selling. The kids will get this coin one day.

Fantastic find bushpig
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Link to site (only chrome worked for me)

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide...ling-km-713-1831-1837-cuid-122911-duid-314729



Makes me wonder if it only ever came out as a proof coin lol (only maybe)

Heres the search page link too

http://www.google.com/search?q=1831...Q&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp#spf=1615858636293

Good price on a near perfect one on ebay

Link

https://www.ebay.com/b/1831-Year-UK-Coins/3394/bn_110342879?_pgn=2

Like Wow... I'd say you're onto a huge winner there.. Maybe seek out expert advice... :Y:

Thanks fella. I'm certain it's 1831 but she wasn't queen until 1837 so that's where the confusion comes from.

Yer looks like proof only.
Better than finding a couple of Sovs.
Nice find :8 :Y:

Ill keep you updated. Watch this space.

It might be a mule.... accidentally used an old 1831 die.
Now wouldn't that be a fortunate find :rainbow: :money:

Taylors mule

Link (it's pdf...I couldn't see it there yet)

http://www.google.com/search?q=1831...g&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp#spf=1615861589171



Dont clean it any more than the wash you've given it bushpig erfect:

Yep won't clean it. It actually came out clean haven't washed it at all. Taking it to an expert in melb in the next few days.

I thought it might be a mule too... Tbh I'd say it's a mule...

Very interesting, wow, interested to see what you can find out about it. :Y:

Hi Bushpig,
Nice find. I don't believe that it was minted in 1831 no shillings were minted between 1829 - 1834 check the size 23.5mm and weight 5.65grms. It can't be a proof as there wouldn't have been a Queen Victoria die created for the coin as she didn't come to the throne until 1838. Also her image is the second version which came after 1839 were the WW below the neck was removed. More then likely an unrecorded die date error between 1839 and 1863 from then on they put the die number on the coin, Also in 1867 the head changed to young head portrait 3. As to the value to a collector only one that collects error coins would be interested. Personally it tells more of a story if kept by the finder and keeps the line of the provenance to the object.
Hope this helps.
cheers db

That's why I recon this is it
Mule error for sure....

Better than finding a 2000 mule hey !

Jeez that to me clearly looks like a 1 , not a 7.

Can see how a 7 could end up looking like a 1 though.

Fingers crossed for you!!...looks bloody nice for 190 years old erfect: :gemstone:

Yep that's a 1 for sure, for sure!
Mackka

Ripper story/find erfect: :clap: :clap: fingers crossed for you bushpig :Y: ower: Definitely get it assessed by more than 1 valuer :beer:

silver said:

That's why I recon this is it
Mule error for sure....
https://www.prospectingaustralia.co...1615869970_screenshot_2021-03-16-14-44-46.jpg
Better than finding a 2000 mule hey !

Click to expand...

Sorry to burst your bubble mate, but that pdf sale catalogue item is on page 218 and is for the copper sales tokens pictured below. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the silver coin that bushpig found.

Hi
I think we need to get the terminology correct to start with a MULE coin is a coin that is struck with a die that belongs to another coin either value or country :-
Such as the 2000 $2 had a 10cent obverse or the 1916 half penny had the Indian obverse. This coin if genuine is a error coin meaning that the engraver put the wrong date on it. First I would check the silver content as well as the size and weight. If those things are correct the only people that can verify this coin are PCGS Paris office or the London mint. Anyone else would still have to send the coin away to be verified.
If it is genuine then it is worth a quite a few dollars. Still a great find.
If you can send me better Hi Res photos I can send them to a dealer that will check the coin for you.
cheers DB

Sorry I forgot to mention that the date is all wrong in as much that the style of 3 never was used until 1873 and the die number was include.


Hope this helps
cheers db

Even as a fake (if that's the case) it's still a bloody ripper find erfect: :beer: For the minted age it's definitely 18th century :Y: and it's yours and maybe the only one in existence ower: