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<blockquote data-quote="davent" data-source="post: 666843" data-attributes="member: 6002"><p>Elapids, that is the genre of Venomous Australians snakes. </p><p>If anyone from the US or Asia is reading this, do NOT treat VIPER bites like this.</p><p>Reason being, elapids, like Australian venomous snakes and the mamma's, cobras, coral snakes ,Kraits etc have strong nurotoxic venoms that work very quickly to shut down major organs. These kind of snakes have small fangs and the venom is injected fairly shallow and travels through the lymph system. The pressure immobisation method is a life saver if the bitten person stays still until help arrives.</p><p></p><p>Vipers, have long fangs, and inject deep into the tissue. It's the venom that is different. Vioers mainly have necrotic venom and either blood thinning or clotting agents. Swelling is extreme in most cases. By stopping the venom from moving, you are concentrating it in one area, this can result in the only treatment being amputation of the limb. Also when the bandage is removed, clots can also move. If the venom can move freely, the patient still has a much longer time to get treatment compared to elapid bites, and will likely survive without loss of limb.</p><p>The misconception about how dangerous Aussie snakes are compared to others is really misleading.</p><p>You have a very high chance of making a full recovery from snake bite here in Australia, not so from other vipers of the America's, Asia and Africa.</p><p>This photo is after 8 surgery in central America from a snake that wouldn't make the top 20 list.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="davent, post: 666843, member: 6002"] Elapids, that is the genre of Venomous Australians snakes. If anyone from the US or Asia is reading this, do NOT treat VIPER bites like this. Reason being, elapids, like Australian venomous snakes and the mamma's, cobras, coral snakes ,Kraits etc have strong nurotoxic venoms that work very quickly to shut down major organs. These kind of snakes have small fangs and the venom is injected fairly shallow and travels through the lymph system. The pressure immobisation method is a life saver if the bitten person stays still until help arrives. Vipers, have long fangs, and inject deep into the tissue. It's the venom that is different. Vioers mainly have necrotic venom and either blood thinning or clotting agents. Swelling is extreme in most cases. By stopping the venom from moving, you are concentrating it in one area, this can result in the only treatment being amputation of the limb. Also when the bandage is removed, clots can also move. If the venom can move freely, the patient still has a much longer time to get treatment compared to elapid bites, and will likely survive without loss of limb. The misconception about how dangerous Aussie snakes are compared to others is really misleading. You have a very high chance of making a full recovery from snake bite here in Australia, not so from other vipers of the America's, Asia and Africa. This photo is after 8 surgery in central America from a snake that wouldn't make the top 20 list. [/QUOTE]
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