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12 August 2017 10:51 pm

NSW fossickers are urged to put pen to paper to support the case for access to these areas currently managed by National Parks of NSW.

These are good gold areas. NAPFA will put in a submission but anyone with local knowledge or with aspirations to do something in that area should put pen to paper. Just state your interest in the area and any particular knowledge or insight you may have regarding the fossicking potential.

If you can write a post for the forum, then you could write a submission!

See the note below from National Parks. You can get on their alert list for reviews as well if you visit their website.

Thanks.
Stephen
President of NAPFA

Hopefully this google screen shot loads....

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Public exhibition of Cottan-Bimbang NP, Cottan-Bimbang SCA and The Cells SCA Draft Plan of Management

The Cottan-Bimbang NP, Cottan-Bimbang SCA and The Cells SCA Draft Plan of Management has been prepared and is being exhibited in accordance with the National Parks and Wildlife Act 1974. Cottan-Bimbang National Park and State Conservation Area and The Cells State Conservation Areas are located in the hinterland of the NSW mid north coast, approximately 70 kilometres west of Wauchope and 65 kilometres east of Walcha. The parks are dissected by the Oxley Highway and are managed by NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service (NPWS), part of Office of Environment and Heritage
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The draft plan of management can be viewed at https://engage.environment.nsw.gov.au/consult. You are invited to make a written submission on the draft plan of management.
Submissions need to be received by 14 August 2017.

You can provide your written submission in one of the following ways:
i. use the online submission form at https://engage.environment.nsw.gov.au/consult
ii. email your submission to npws.parkplanning@environment.nsw.gov.au
iii. post your submission to NPWS Planner, Cottan-Bimbang Parks Draft PoM, NPWS, PO Box 361, Grafton NSW 2460..
Your submission will be provided to a number of statutory advisory bodies (including the relevant regional advisory committee and the National Parks and Wildlife Advisory Council). Your comments on the draft plan may include ‘personal information’. OEH complies with the NSW Privacy and Personal Information Protection Act 1998 which regulates the collection, storage, access, amendment, use and disclosure of personal information. See OEH privacy webpage (www.environment.nsw.gov.au/help/privacy.htm) for details. Information that in some way identifies you may be gathered when you use our website or send us correspondence.
Your submission, in whole or part or as part of a summary, may be made publicly available on our website. If you do not want your submission made public in this way, please indicate this on your submission. If an application to access information under the Government Information (Public Access) Act 2009 requests access to your submission, your views about release will be sought if you have indicated that you object to your submission being made public.
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Yours sincerely

STEPHEN MOORE
Acting Team Leader, Park Management Planning
National Parks and Wildlife Service
Tel: (02) 44222341


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12 August 2017 10:53 pm

The reason to make a submission is to indicate to the NSW National Parks that you have an interest in fossicking in the said areas; and that you support the right of others to fossick there. If you examine the screenshot above, there are Exploration Leases all over the SCA. And yet we cannot fossick there.

In my opinion that is not a fair situation. Why can a mining company explore, and potentially mine, but we cannot fossick?

These matters need to be reinforced to NPWS at every opportunity.

Key points to make are:

  • this area has known mineral resources that would be of interest to fossickers.

  • this is demonstrated by the fact that mining companies can operate mining exploration leases over the area.

  • if mining companies can explore and potentially mine, then fossickers should also be permitted to fossick there.

  • NPWS can provide consent to fossick in these areas.

  • If you have personal knowledge of the area, state what that may be without giving away your secrets!

  • If you know that the area has been fossicked in the past, before it became national park lands, provide information.

  • Fossicking is a low impact activity that brings benefit to regional areas, as well as supporting the health and well-being of the community.

  • Fossicking is a highly regulated activity; and its application (techniques and areas) in the areas of the review can be determined by NPWS.

That's for starters! You may have other ideas as well -- in which case just say it in your own words.

At the end of the day, just give it a crack! For you and your kids and your kids' kids!
cheers
stephen
President of NAPFA


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7.62marksman
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12 August 2017 11:23 pm

if it helps this is what i have on the area
Debenhan is at 3 o clock

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13 August 2017 12:18 am

Submission submitted thumbsup thumbsup


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mbasko
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13 August 2017 09:27 am

Don't forget the Monga SCA Draft Plan of Management while you've got your writing pens out:
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/publi … 170241.htm


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13 August 2017 03:52 pm

Thanks.

NAPFA had not put that one up yet, but I see you have. Good work. We will be plugging it in the next newsletter to members as well.

Stephen
NAPFA
President.


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13 August 2017 03:53 pm

That's Monga of course!


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01 September 2017 12:10 pm

Public consultation on crown land regulation 2017
submissions are invited from the 4th sep to the 24th sep 2017 (page 69 todays daily telegraph)
website www.crownland.nsw.gov.au Not sure if this is the right place to post on forum, this issue has been raised before.
Had a brief read through, the ministers new powers to covert lease land, to freehold, and the ability to sell, close, crown roads, could impact on prospecting, fishing, and general access. with little public consultation, notice in local paper, 28 days to reply. Does not sound good to me, any ideas from the forum?


Greenhorn on a long learning curve 4x4 to get out there, not sure where there is lol Garrett gold pans, bought sdc 2300 after advise from forum cheers.

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01 September 2017 05:52 pm

This was raised here some time ago now Greenhorn with full submissions on the Crown Lands Enquiry sought. Results of here:
http://www.crownland.nsw.gov.au/crown_l … management
The new submission period is basically just for public comment on the new Crown Land Regulation 2017 draft. The Crown Land Management Act 2016 that came out of the previous review/enquiry has already been passed in Parliament. Now that it's Regulations are in draft stage I would assume unless something is majorly amiss then the boat has sailed. To me it looks like a reasonably fair job was done & submissions were taken into consideration though.


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01 September 2017 07:54 pm

Ok cheers mbasko, I wonder how much, community consultation will take place, when proposals are put forward to change leasehold land to freehold, or close/sell crown roads,(isolated roads we may use to access prospecting areas) when these changes come into effect.


Greenhorn on a long learning curve 4x4 to get out there, not sure where there is lol Garrett gold pans, bought sdc 2300 after advise from forum cheers.

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01 September 2017 08:30 pm

Time will tell. Can't be any worse than now which is all but zero. Apart from reading the NSW Government Gazette each week you would never know about them now.


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mbasko
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24 June 2021 07:39 pm

It took 4 years but another nice leap forward for NAPFA in NSW:

"A plan of management for Cottan-Bimbang National Park, Cottan-Bimbang State Conservation Area and The Cells State Conservation Area has been adopted under the National Parks and Wildlife Act 1974.

The draft plan of management for these parks attracted a small number of submissions mainly relating to fossicking and vehicle access. Minor changes were made to the plan to:

• permit fossicking in The Cells SCA using handheld metal detectors and pans

The adopted plan is available at https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/topi … management "
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Plan of management for Cottan-Bimbang National Park, Cottan-Bimbang State Conservation Area and The Cells State Conservation Area  wrote:

Other uses
Fossicking is a recreational activity involving the small-scale search for minerals, gemstones or mineral-bearing material from the surface (or by digging from the surface) with handheld implements.
Fossicking is generally not permitted in parks without consent because it can pose unacceptable risks to natural and cultural heritage (OEH 2018). As fossicking mainly takes place along river and creek banks, disturbance of soils and erosion can lead to impacts on aquatic habitats, vegetation and fauna such as native fish (NSW Industry & Investment 2019).
The NPWS policy allows for limited fossicking opportunities in parks with consent, subject to an appropriate environment and risk assessment level. The assessment needs to consider if the activity poses unacceptable risks to visitor safety or to park values, including threatened native plants and animals, Aboriginal cultural heritage, World Heritage values, wilderness, catchment integrity and water quality.
The parks were formerly part of the Bulga, Brassey, Doyles River, Mount Seaview and Enfield state forests. There was some history of recreational fossicking in the area while it was state forest with this focused on the area that is now The Cells State Conservation Area.
There is no evidence that fossicking occurred in the area contained within Cottan-Bimbang National Park or Cottan-Bimbang State Conservation Area. Access into these areas is limited due to the steep terrain that can be dangerous inaccessible in the wet. There are also safety issues associated with disused mine shafts that may pose a risk to visitor safety.
Given the important Aboriginal cultural heritage values, significant catchment values and associated stream ecology in these parks, particularly in the catchments of Fenwicks and Ralfes creeks and Tobins River, recreational fossicking will only be allowed to continue to occur in the Cells State Conservation Area using handheld metal detectors and pans. Sluicing associated with previous fossicking activity in this area caused environmental impacts and will therefore not be permitted.
Fossickers must follow the low impact requirements of the Mining Regulation 2016 and the NPWS Fossicking policy (OEH 2018). NPWS will monitor any environmental impacts caused by this recreational activity and may not provide consent if adverse impacts are detected.

Last edited by mbasko (24 June 2021 07:50 pm)


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Dave79
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24 June 2021 09:01 pm

Looks like another lockout with a very small exemption to me awful


Prospecting must be like fishing, the big one keeps getting away!

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24 June 2021 10:43 pm

Good luck up there, we've been partially shafted again down here in Vic. ...... took years but they have now snuck this through with very little fanfare.

NON of their previous recommendations to look into the effects of prospecting on certain areas were undertaken so how they came to a decision without that evidence is beyond me.

Voice of PMAV and individuals, not all totally opposed to Parks as such but definitely to the exclusion of prospecting.

Cheers T.


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24 June 2021 11:14 pm

Dave79 wrote:

Looks like another lockout with a very small exemption to me awful

Dave this whole area has been 100% off limits to fossicking/prospecting since January 2003 when NSW National Parks & Wildlife Service took it over from NSW State Forests.
As a general rule the NPWS don't allow fossicking/prospecting in their parks (there are only 3 others in NSW where it's allowed).
To permit fossicking in The Cells SCA using handheld metal detectors & pans is a very nice step back forwards, in 4708ha of land, for both local + visiting fossickers/prospectors!

Your a pessimistic little vegemite aren't you tongue big_smile


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25 June 2021 01:36 am

Looking forward to the show and tell, well done NAPFA and supporters thumbsup

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Dave79
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25 June 2021 07:35 am

mbasko wrote:
Dave79 wrote:

Looks like another lockout with a very small exemption to me awful

Dave this whole area has been 100% off limits to fossicking/prospecting since January 2003 when NSW National Parks & Wildlife Service took it over from NSW State Forests.
As a general rule the NPWS don't allow fossicking/prospecting in their parks (there are only 3 others in NSW where it's allowed).
To permit fossicking in The Cells SCA using handheld metal detectors & pans is a very nice step back forwards, in 4708ha of land, for both local + visiting fossickers/prospectors!

Your a pessimistic little vegemite aren't you tongue big_smile

My bad, thought this was a new NP. Good to see that exemption...even if it took 20 years.

Pessimistic, maybe. Wait till half your state is National Park and the other half is under ML or EL, I can't even fossick in my backyard without permission!


Prospecting must be like fishing, the big one keeps getting away!

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25 June 2021 11:54 am

Congrats to NAPFA for pursuing and getting some forms of fossicking accepted.

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