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Wishfull
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22 June 2019 02:50 pm

Hi finally got an hour out on the local beach and took little Miss chatter box with me while Mrs is working.

The beach is sooo quiet I had to recheck every now and the to make sure the nox was still working. Managed to find a lot of ring pulls and flagon and whiskey tops. A few .22 bullet shells. Then I found what I thought was a live.32/20 cartridge but turned out to be an old round nose .303 projectile that someone had pushed into a .32 ( I think ) shell that had been fired but the salt had removed any markings on it.
What was odd was that the .303 was fired from a left hand twist barrel.
After our free time was up we walked back to the car and little Miss picked up a 50 cent piece. big_smile who needs a metal detector when you have a kid with you.

I love the Nox 800. It's so easy to use. I was finding ring pulls at 12 inches deep and very loud.
If it was a coin you'd certainly pick it up.
Just need a big storm to wash the beach out, far too much sea weed and soft deep sand atm.

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Wishfull
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22 June 2019 06:51 pm

Spoke too soon.
Might get my wish about the storm hitting the beach this coming Monday.

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Bush Chook
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22 June 2019 07:02 pm

Wonder if that piece of case might be from a .310 Martini Cadet? It looks to be a rimmed, straight walled case, with about the correct dimensions judging from the .311 pill in it?


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BC

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Wishfull
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22 June 2019 07:23 pm

You could be right BC. Been a while since I did any reloading. Kind of lost track of all the dimension specifications. Still got my reloading books somewhere ? Looks too long for a 32/20 anyway.
Just thinking. You could be spot on. The area used to be a firing range for the defence force during ww2 .

What .303's rifles had the left hand twist ? Buggered if I can remember


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22 June 2019 08:24 pm

Range of barrels out there with LH twist, I thought some of those were SMLEs? Pretty popular in Europe. Though apparently not so much with US barrel makers.


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BC

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Wishfull
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22 June 2019 09:11 pm

Think I found the case. It was like you said. .310 cadet

I am wonderinf if the .303 was from a Martini Henry 303 rifle.They also had the .310 Cadet training rifle I think ??

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22 June 2019 09:41 pm

Maybe, esp. given that there was a combination of the two companies ('Martini Enfield') in between the Boer War and WWI. That's when the British Empire's troops started to get breech-loading cartridges in .303 cal.


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BC

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Wishfull
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11 July 2019 03:25 pm

Can anyone identify these cast thingos with the little handles, found Not by me but by a mate with his nox 800.

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11 July 2019 03:53 pm

They look like window catch/locks to me, pretty big comparing to the other items, but so were old windows.
Is that a door plaque next to the horse shoe ?


Still looking for Captain Feather-swords treasure chest !
Won't be long now - 3240+ holes and STILL counting. (bloody ring-pulls and tabs) LOL

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Wishfull
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11 July 2019 04:53 pm

The "door plapue" has an inscription on it. Not sure what it says. It almost looks like a plaque you'd find on a coffin ?
Interestingly it and the rest of the items were found around 2 inches deep and a couple hundred yards way away from an old cemetary. No not in it.

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11 July 2019 07:28 pm

Mate, you have parts from a coffin ! ops

You are going to have a hard time explaining that 6' hole you dug, better sell the Nox 800, goes too deep. ( or "Your Mate's" )

Those are the ends of coffin handles, one brass bit on each end.....

Yes the plaque says 'At Rest'

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Last edited by Greenhornet_au (11 July 2019 07:32 pm)


Still looking for Captain Feather-swords treasure chest !
Won't be long now - 3240+ holes and STILL counting. (bloody ring-pulls and tabs) LOL

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11 July 2019 07:30 pm

Coffin handles? Maybe one floated away in a flood.


Prospecting must be like fishing, the big one keeps getting away!

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Wishfull
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11 July 2019 07:37 pm

Coffin handles...Really ?Why would they be that far away from a cement..aarr..y ? and so shallow ?

I'll pass on the info. Thanks guys thumbsup


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11 July 2019 07:37 pm

I hope it isnt a childs coffin.

I heard somewhere, or read, that when a cemetery gets too full, they will dig up old graves to put in new coffins...

Maybe the cemetery was bigger in the past, and I have also heard that if not buried deep enough, if there is a lot of ground water
they can pop out of the soil with hydraulic pressure.

Spooky.

Nothing looks scorched, so not likely left overs from cremation

Last edited by Greenhornet_au (11 July 2019 07:39 pm)


Still looking for Captain Feather-swords treasure chest !
Won't be long now - 3240+ holes and STILL counting. (bloody ring-pulls and tabs) LOL

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11 July 2019 10:35 pm

Very unusual, by reading the finds I would say it is a coffin from a one legged horse who choked on a ring pull.

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Wishfull
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11 July 2019 11:30 pm

Wally69 wrote:

Very unusual, by reading the finds I would say it is a coffin from a one legged horse who choked on a ring pull.

What about the .303 blank then hmmmm big_smile

Bit spooky about the coffins rising to the surface. Chills down back.

I recon he ought to go put that stuff back.


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11 July 2019 11:36 pm

Greenhornet_au wrote:

Mate, you have parts from a coffin ! ops

You are going to have a hard time explaining that 6' hole you dug, better sell the Nox 800, goes too deep. ( or "Your Mate's" )

Those are the ends of coffin handles, one brass bit on each end.....

Yes the plaque says 'At Rest'

https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au … andles.jpg

Any idea how old those handle end bits would be ?


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12 July 2019 12:09 am

That is freaky Wishfull sad I thought door handles for sure until you mentioned the plaque at rest!


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12 July 2019 07:45 am

I WAS going to say nice find ops
But now I'd say RETURN IT BACK to its resting place and say 10 Hale Mary's
Then maybe you'll be ok ops


No pain No gain..

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12 July 2019 08:44 am

Plus 4 Our Fathers and A Glory Be.
Doomed I think
Mackka

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Wishfull
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12 July 2019 10:50 am

I didn't didn't find it Smokey.
But yeah I think he should return it. He probably won't though.
I was trying imagine a one legged horse but that image fell over.
I wonder if your right Greenhornet_au that they did dig up the plots and just took the metal bits out and discarded them. Why would you bother, wouldnt you just leave them in the hole ?


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12 July 2019 11:39 pm

Wishfull wrote:
Greenhornet_au wrote:

Mate, you have parts from a coffin ! ops

You are going to have a hard time explaining that 6' hole you dug, better sell the Nox 800, goes too deep. ( or "Your Mate's" )

Those are the ends of coffin handles, one brass bit on each end.....

Yes the plaque says 'At Rest'

https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au … andles.jpg

Any idea how old those handle end bits would be ?

The images I found put them in the latish 1800's, so it could extend into the 1900's.

But I would suggest that the pattern seems Victorian, the plaque looks like that sort of script.


Still looking for Captain Feather-swords treasure chest !
Won't be long now - 3240+ holes and STILL counting. (bloody ring-pulls and tabs) LOL

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13 July 2019 12:07 am

Wishfull wrote:

I didn't didn't find it Smokey.
But yeah I think he should return it. He probably won't though.
I was trying imagine a one legged horse but that image fell over.
I wonder if your right Greenhornet_au that they did dig up the plots and just took the metal bits out and discarded them. Why would you bother, wouldnt you just leave them in the hole ?

As far as I know, if they are re-selling a plot and dig up the box and what is left, it is all taken out and disposed of if found.
Small cemeteries did get over crowded too, sometimes plots opened to put the Wife and Husband into the same hole,
or multiple kids if they all passed away in a short period, saved money.
I am aware of a mother that took 3 children to hospital in Adelaide, all 3 died from illness, she carried them all home wrapped only in brown paper on a train,
then buried them all together by herself. That is pretty tough, what a loss and strength of heart, sad and inspiring at the same time. They were pretty poor.

The box may have disintergrated before or after being pulled up, they do rot away even today.

Cremation, sometimes the non burnable bits were removed and buried under the headstone (family request)

Lazy employees may not bury deep enough.

Sometimes families actually buried the box next to the cemetery in the middle of the night if they could not get into the plots because of cost
Sometimes buried in their own backyard or field or hillside, burial regulation was not in force for many years.
But even in death someone has to pay for your spot. wink

Boundary moved and box pulled up by a plow.

Floods and soft soil, it floated up and out.

Grave robber's too.

Will never find out, so make up a good story, about a dark and foggy night,
scratching from inside the box as it was buried, and it being found open the next morning after the burial, the body never to be found..... ops

The spirit of the deceased is long gone, but out of respect I would be taking it back to the Cemetery and burying it back inside of the marked area
of the plots, with a small chat and a thank you for the adventure of discovery, smile as you walk away. wink

Last edited by Greenhornet_au (13 July 2019 12:14 am)


Still looking for Captain Feather-swords treasure chest !
Won't be long now - 3240+ holes and STILL counting. (bloody ring-pulls and tabs) LOL

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