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#901

mbasko
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From: Central West NSW
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13 May 2019 05:08 am

Outback wrote:
Redfin wrote:
Outback wrote:

The QED is assembled in Australia thumbsup

All other detectors are not made here !

Jack

Fixed it for you

Fixed for me ? Reg has found more gold then anyone on here , maybe you have done better then ? playful

Cheers
Jack

Think he means this bit not the bit about Reg.
The QED is assembled in Australia from internationally made components including the shaft & supplied coil/s. thumbsup


Everything we use comes from mining or farming.

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#902

Redfin
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13 May 2019 08:56 am

Obviously through to the keeper.


Det used - Whites 6000D, ML SD2000, ML SD 2001, ML SD 2200D, Garrett Infinium. Minelab SDC 2300. Minelab GPZ 7000.
Current Det - Garrett ASD Groundhog. . Minelab GPX 5000. Minelab GPX 4500.

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#903

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13 May 2019 09:22 am

Well I think just about every thing ever made nower days has some imported parts in it, Still does not change the fact that they are made in Australia, Even Rolex Watches have Jewels imported from around the world but They are Still Swiss Made Watches just the same,

Gone are the Days of Henry Ford when every thing was made In House, Including the Windows and Tyres, thumbsup


Dig em all,

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#904

Reg Wilson
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13 May 2019 10:28 am

The QED is not just assembled here in Australia. It was designed by an Australian. The plastic control panel is built in Ballarat, as is the electronics box and speaker mounting. The coils used can be from a number of sources, Australian or overseas built. The stems and arm rests are overseas sourced, although this may change in future if a local manufacturer can be arranged. Obviously electronic components are overseas sourced as they are not manufactured here.
Thinly veiled denigration of this Australian detector by suggestions that it is merely assembled here ignores the fact that it is not a multinational conglomerate charging exorbitant prices for equipment cheaply manufactured in third world countries that are notorious for actual slave labour conditions. The QED is built here.


Walmer Central Victoria
Began detecting 1979 Best colour 3Kgs Best patch 340 ozs.

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#905

Redfin
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13 May 2019 10:37 am

Reg Wilson wrote:

The QED is built here.

Agreed Reg, built/assembled, not made here.


Det used - Whites 6000D, ML SD2000, ML SD 2001, ML SD 2200D, Garrett Infinium. Minelab SDC 2300. Minelab GPZ 7000.
Current Det - Garrett ASD Groundhog. . Minelab GPX 5000. Minelab GPX 4500.

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#906

Reg Wilson
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13 May 2019 10:46 am

With all due respect Redfin, I think you are just 'splitting hairs'. The QED is put together here by its Australian designer in Ballarat from as many Australian components as is actually possible. No other detector manufacturer can claim as much.


Walmer Central Victoria
Began detecting 1979 Best colour 3Kgs Best patch 340 ozs.

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#907

Redfin
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13 May 2019 11:26 am

Not having a go at the detector or you, just pointing out that not all components are made here.
Time to move on.


Det used - Whites 6000D, ML SD2000, ML SD 2001, ML SD 2200D, Garrett Infinium. Minelab SDC 2300. Minelab GPZ 7000.
Current Det - Garrett ASD Groundhog. . Minelab GPX 5000. Minelab GPX 4500.

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#908

davent
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13 May 2019 03:07 pm

Redfin, I don't think it would.be possible to build a detector with 100% Australian made components.
It is designed and built in Australia, by an Australian.

Its made in Australia full stop.

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#909

Redfin
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13 May 2019 04:07 pm

davent wrote:

Redfin, I don't think it would.be possible to build a detector with 100% Australian made components.
It is designed and built in Australia, by an Australian.

Its made in Australia full stop.

I'm over it Dave, see 4 corners are at it again tonight.


Det used - Whites 6000D, ML SD2000, ML SD 2001, ML SD 2200D, Garrett Infinium. Minelab SDC 2300. Minelab GPZ 7000.
Current Det - Garrett ASD Groundhog. . Minelab GPX 5000. Minelab GPX 4500.

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#910

Candigger
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14 May 2019 04:49 am

Reg Wilson wrote:

.............it is not a multinational conglomerate charging exorbitant prices for equipment cheaply manufactured in third world countries that are notorious for actual slave labour conditions.

You are not putting into perspective the majority's favourite ML in here. Are you?
lol

#911

Candigger
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14 May 2019 04:58 am

Redfin wrote:

Not having a go at the detector or you, just pointing out that not all components are made here.
Time to move on.

Nothing on this planet is made out of parts and/or components that are single sourced or entirely in house manufactured. This is not the way the world runs these days.
If the QED is put together by an Australian according to his own design it is by all means an Australian product that contains some parts and materials sourced elsewhere, but this doesn't make it any less Australian.
Hell, probably half of the food in Australian shops is imported. Are you an Australian or a foreigner since you probably didn't grow up with 100% Australian food?

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#912

Redfin
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14 May 2019 09:52 am

Glad you agree with me CD


Det used - Whites 6000D, ML SD2000, ML SD 2001, ML SD 2200D, Garrett Infinium. Minelab SDC 2300. Minelab GPZ 7000.
Current Det - Garrett ASD Groundhog. . Minelab GPX 5000. Minelab GPX 4500.

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#913

Jaros
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14 May 2019 10:07 am

Amen. perfect oh! and women. smile


F1A4M2, Exterra 705 Gold, Ace 250, Goldrat 8" Dreammat River Sluice.

#914

Ridge Runner
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14 May 2019 01:36 pm

Well it is made in Australia and from a bloke in a shed, Not only he has done a mighty job but the thing works and works well, It might not have the name of the top 5 companies on It but it has knocked at leased 4 of the others off their perch, Fair play to the bloke, thumbsup


Dig em all,

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#915

Aussiedigs
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19 May 2019 01:14 pm

Interesting the negativity expressed against a home grown PI detector from what i have seen as a newbie to this hobby. Constructive criticism i can understand but alot of attitudes havent done the maker and detector any favours.

If there is anything not liked about the workings or layout, why not present it as constructive criticisms so we all have the opportunity to benefit in the long run. Howard needs to be of the character to listen and wear constructive criticisms also. A detector needs to be made for the people.

I hope the QED survives and prospers. Hopefully the QED will be my first PI.

Al.


“He had died of hunger, yet under his head was a bag with eighteen pounds' weight of gold in it...”

#916

mbasko
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19 May 2019 02:36 pm

Aussiedigs do a Google search on the QED. The bickering goes on for ~10years or so.
Both sides of the fence have been as bad as each other over the years including the maker. There's no innocent parties!
In my opinion though the maker has been very proactive in regards to any constructive criticisms since the QED's initial public release for sale seen by the improvements made through to the current PL2 model - many of them put forward by users.
Unfortunately some of the other non financial vested interests/connections in the QED still go on the attack against anyone who does raise any criticism whether it's warranted or not. They ruin it for the maker as much as any of the so called anti-QED mob!


Everything we use comes from mining or farming.

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#917

Rockhunter62
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19 May 2019 03:02 pm

Aussiedigs wrote:

Interesting the negativity expressed against a home grown PI detector from what i have seen as a newbie to this hobby. Constructive criticism i can understand but alot of attitudes havent done the maker and detector any favours.

If there is anything not liked about the workings or layout, why not present it as constructive criticisms so we all have the opportunity to benefit in the long run. Howard needs to be of the character to listen and wear constructive criticisms also. A detector needs to be made for the people.

I hope the QED survives and prospers. Hopefully the QED will be my first PI.

Al.

Hi Al,

If you haven't already found it there is another forum that loves the QED. Just don't mention the name Minelab and you should fit in nicely.

http://www.australianelectronicgoldprospectingforum.com

Cheers

Doug


Forest Gump once said "life is like a detector going beep, you don't know what it is till you dig it up"

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#918

Redfin
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19 May 2019 03:39 pm

Aussiedigs wrote:

Interesting the negativity expressed
Al.

Hope you are not referring to my post, no negativity there expressed or implied.


Det used - Whites 6000D, ML SD2000, ML SD 2001, ML SD 2200D, Garrett Infinium. Minelab SDC 2300. Minelab GPZ 7000.
Current Det - Garrett ASD Groundhog. . Minelab GPX 5000. Minelab GPX 4500.

#919

Aussiedigs
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19 May 2019 04:26 pm

No i wasnt Red. Just what i have read over time across a few forums.


“He had died of hunger, yet under his head was a bag with eighteen pounds' weight of gold in it...”

#920

Aussiedigs
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19 May 2019 04:36 pm

Rockhunter62 wrote:
Aussiedigs wrote:

Interesting the negativity expressed against a home grown PI detector from what i have seen as a newbie to this hobby. Constructive criticism i can understand but alot of attitudes havent done the maker and detector any favours.

If there is anything not liked about the workings or layout, why not present it as constructive criticisms so we all have the opportunity to benefit in the long run. Howard needs to be of the character to listen and wear constructive criticisms also. A detector needs to be made for the people.

I hope the QED survives and prospers. Hopefully the QED will be my first PI.

Al.

Hi Al,

If you haven't already found it there is another forum that loves the QED. Just don't mention the name Minelab and you should fit in nicely.

http://www.australianelectronicgoldprospectingforum.com

Cheers

Doug

Thanks Doug. I have joined that forum but have not posted there. Actually i very rarely venture in there. I did alot of reading but havent been back since really. There is one member who annoyes the crap outta me so best to stay away. wink


“He had died of hunger, yet under his head was a bag with eighteen pounds' weight of gold in it...”

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#921

Aussiedigs
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19 May 2019 04:37 pm

mbasko wrote:

Aussiedigs do a Google search on the QED. The bickering goes on for ~10years or so.
Both sides of the fence have been as bad as each other over the years including the maker. There's no innocent parties!
In my opinion though the maker has been very proactive in regards to any constructive criticisms since the QED's initial public release for sale seen by the improvements made through to the current PL2 model - many of them put forward by users.
Unfortunately some of the other non financial vested interests/connections in the QED still go on the attack against anyone who does raise any criticism whether it's warranted or not. They ruin it for the maker as much as any of the so called anti-QED mob!

Gotchya!


“He had died of hunger, yet under his head was a bag with eighteen pounds' weight of gold in it...”

#922

Araratgold
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10 June 2019 11:02 am

I see Howard has finally acknowledged the problem with the QED that I highlighted when I tried to use it as a patch hunting detector in WA.
This is the very same problem that at least 4 other people had in WA ( as reported by Madtuna ).

I got lambasted by the Doug and Bugs crew and told that I didn't know how to use the QED, that I was a Minelab stooge, that my report was a hatchet job etc etc, but here is the admission that THERE IS A PROBLEM ! mad

From Howard on Doug's AEGP forum :

" Better GB ie ability to handle higher intensity ground variability without constant re Ground Balancing. "

This is the exact problem that made the QED useless for patch hunting in WA, in combination with lack of automatic ground tracking, which is the other thing Howard is trying to achieve.

Rick

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#923

goldtrapper
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10 June 2019 01:25 pm

And what does the rest of the sentance read??????

#924

Araratgold
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10 June 2019 01:31 pm

goldtrapper wrote:

And what does the rest of the sentance read??????

There is no rest of sentance ( sic ) ! This is one of the things that Howard is trying to improve on the QED, which is an acknowledgement that there is a problem in highly mineralised variable ground, per my findings in WA.

You can read the complete post here ( reply number 2 ) : http://australianelectronicgoldprospect … n#msg47937

Rick

Last edited by Araratgold (10 June 2019 01:44 pm)

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#925

mbasko
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10 June 2019 04:10 pm

Better ground balance in variable ground & ground tracking will be good advances for the QED. thumbsup
I found it could be a pain constantly adjusting the ground balance even in some NSW areas.


Everything we use comes from mining or farming.

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