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PhaseTech
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18 October 2018 12:33 pm

Whisp wrote:

Can the that constant droning be tuned out or do you have to listen to that all the time while the detector is running?

The constant "droning" is the threshold. Nearly all gold detectors ever made have a threshold. That is your reference to what the detector coil is picking up.
The tone of the threshold is fully adjustable so you can set it to something which is more pleasing to your ears. You can also adjust the threshold level so it's not too loud - you want to just hear it, not too high and not too low so it starts breaking up.


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18 October 2018 11:26 pm


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#28

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21 October 2018 12:49 pm

oldtimerROB wrote:

Nenad does not test in very high to extreme ground so I would need some convincing by someone who does before I would buy it.

Rob, no one is trying to convince you of anything. And for your information, I test in a range of conditions. I have ground 35 mins from home that would rival some of the hottest ground in Victoria. I also know that a super sensitive high frequency VLF isn't the best choice for extreme ground.

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21 October 2018 06:23 pm

I have uploaded a "first look" video on the Gold Kruzer. Short overview of some of the features on the machine, and a run over some ground.

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01 November 2018 03:43 pm

Hi Nenad. You’ve probably answered this question before but is the Gold Kruzer susceptible to emi interference? I like the machine very much and have a few areas that I think it will go well. Regards Rick


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#31

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01 November 2018 04:24 pm

Hardly affected by EMI. I have used in near electric fences and around high voltage lines and it purrs along. I have even switched it on in the house, with the Gain flat out and it's quite happy. You do have a 5 position frequency shift just in case you do come across something it interferes with.

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#32

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01 November 2018 04:27 pm

Here's another video from James. He's killing it at the moment - electronic panning


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#33

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01 November 2018 04:42 pm

That is tiny gold that he’s picking up and at reasonable depth. It’s working well.


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01 November 2018 04:44 pm

Thanks for the reply. Rick


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#35

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29 January 2019 11:15 pm


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09 April 2019 11:30 am

PhaseTech wrote:

Hardly affected by EMI. I have used in near electric fences and around high voltage lines and it purrs along. I have even switched it on in the house, with the Gain flat out and it's quite happy. You do have a 5 position frequency shift just in case you do come across something it interferes with.

Looks good. So if you get EMI you can change the frequency? What are the other 5 frequencies, or is it always 61kHz?

#37

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09 April 2019 12:19 pm

Yeah it's just a frequency shift, so changes the base 61 kHz by a very small margin.


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#38

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21 May 2019 07:13 am

Can you give some examples of targets found at what depths please ?

#39

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01 September 2019 10:40 am

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This is the first gold that I’ve found with the Kruzer. It was found on a lease in the Palmer River. The biggest piece is 1.95 grams and it was a very clear, mellow signal. The nugget was about 100mm deep but I think I would have found it deeper than that owing to the strength of the signal. I used the small 7x5 coil (I think that’s right) which ran very smoothly in the hottish ground. I have used the bigger coil in the same area but it was very chattery and was picking up every hot rock in the area. That doesn’t mean it would not have picked these bits up if I had put the coil over them. Gold seemed to ring up around 58 ish on the more prominent nuggets. There is a definite difference between gold target tones and bits of junk. Hot rocks also have a sound of their own and the high and low numbers can be relied upon. The smallest piece is very flat and smaller than a pin head so I was impressed when I found that one. I thought the small coil would make detecting a decent area very time consuming but it’s not that bad. I covered the site of this patch which was about 30 square meters fairly easily and thoroughly. I ran over it with a 4500 with a 12x8 evo coil and couldn’t find anything else. In all I’m pleasantly surprised with the quality and performance of an ecconomicly priced machine. To be honest I was a bit sceptical in the beginning when using the bigger coil. It’s Light to use as well and quiet in pretty rough soil. It’s a keeper big_smile

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#40

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20 November 2019 08:53 am

Really informative posts but now Im just totally confused! As a total newbie Im yet to press the launch button to get my first detector. How would this stack up to an Equinox 800 on performance at the beach, looking for coins/relics around the traps and gold detecting in the mountains Central East of Victoria? These will be the uses Im looking at and it seems a similar price point


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#41

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20 November 2019 09:53 am

For gold detecting the Gold Kruzer will be more sensitive to the tiniest pieces, but in mild soil where the Nox can be used in Multi and with a high Sensitivity, it is also very sensitive. I think the Kruzer with its small elliptical coil will have an edge on depth on the real small stuff.

On beaches the Nox wins for depth, although for a high frequency VLF the G Kruzer is the most stable one I've used on wet sand. You just need to manually ground balance it. On dry sand, the gold kruzer with the larger stock concentric coil is dynamite on chains and small jewellery.

For general coin/relic detecting I think the Nox wins on depth, as that is what it was designed for - larger coil and lower frequencies helps. So as a summary, both units can be all-rounders but the Gold Kruzer is going to specialise in tiny targets, where the Nox is more geared to Coin Relic.

Hope that helps


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#42

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20 November 2019 11:24 am

Thankyou Nenad. A pleasure to speak with someone who gives honest and balanced opinions without marketing hype! I saw also that the NM also had a wider range of coils. Does this make the NM GK more flexible in any way or is it just a slightly more manual method of multi frequency? Thanks again


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