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#26

ProspectorPete
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From: S/E Melbourne, VIC
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27 October 2016 08:10 pm

Sounds good Mick, will do.


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#27

oldtimerROB
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05 July 2017 07:48 am

Hi Heatho, went to Havelock for 3 days in early June and had mozzies on my detecting hand where I could not brush them off as I walk with a stick.I wore thick explorer socks and thick track pants and that protected me.I don,t use aerosols. Next time went out with good quality rubber gloves used for dishwashing but in late June there were few around.However mild conditions and rain may bring them out so always be prepared.I suppose we can blame it on global warming as 35 years ago I never encountered these diseases so far south in Central Victoria whilst detecting in winter.


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#28

oldtimerROB
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05 July 2017 08:36 am

HI Mick,nice to read your comments and interesting information about the settings on your Gold Racer.The very high frequency on the Gold Racer may cause your problems with woo woo,but I am not an expert. I have been using the new Impact in 14 and 20 khz and I found it is very stable on goldfields.My main concern is that the isat is turned up to 6 in the GEN or all metal mode as the default setting and this may limit the depth capabilities considerably.In GEN mode you can turn up the disc. setting to 01 or 02 and hear the low tones for hot rocks and iron although iron objects were very rare but bits of tin cans gave a high tone. So far not all that impressed by the other 11 modes until some expert can give me detailed information on their use and optimal settings in goldfields bearing in mind this is a coin hunting machine primarily intended for use in parks or the beach and with the subsequent settings.In the disc. modes I was digging up too many false signals probably caused by small hot spots.Although deep mode is unsuitable in high mineralisation as stated in the manual I found it gave a stronger signal on a small sample of gold I threw on the ground at Dunolly than the other disc. modes and it was stable when hunting.Just about nearly all the signals were faint signals with no ID except for the bits of tin cans and I am really looking forward to getting a solid hit on gold with ID around 40-50.For units costing around the 1 K mark Makro and Nokta provide excellent and affordable detectors for the hobbyist worldwide.I expect there is more demand there and bigger profits to be made than catering to the fewer professional gold prospectors.Incidentally Nenad made a video on youtube using a Racer looking for small nuggets and sounded like he was in all metal with threshold.I think he prefers all metal mode with VLF,s.Looking at a USA forum they all advise using all metal with minimal discrimination setting on goldfields.Also no shame about getting woo woo as I heard a PI near me sounding off all the time sending the guy crackers.It was at the head of a gully with lots of hot spots about 2 feet wide but few hot rocks.

Last edited by oldtimerROB (05 July 2017 09:28 am)


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#29

Mick64
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From: Albury, NSW
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07 July 2017 09:50 am

Hi Old timer,
Good to read your post. Since my last post I have now moved on to the SDC 2300, but only recently when out on the gold field I was thinking it would be good to have the Gold racer again, the only reason would be to know what I'm about to dig. Being so sensitive to gold I'm sure it could tell me whether it was gold or it's lead by using the discrimination mode.
I usually rake and mark my targets I get with the SDC before digging, this way if I had another VLF like the gold racer, I would go back over the targets before digging and see what it tells me.

Anyway keep persevering as you will find that elusive nugget smile

Mick


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#30

PhaseTech
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07 July 2017 11:41 am

Thanks for your feedback oldtimerRob.

Yes, lower frequencies do help with hotter soils, that is why I often recommend the Racer 2 (14kHz) over the Gold Racer to certain people, depending on their requirements. The Impact is definitely the best of the bunch for the more.mineralised soils. In 20 kHz it is very stable, more so than the 19kHz Fors Gold+, but in milder soils the Gold+ barks nicely on a borderline target, whereas the Impact response is a little more mellow so headphones are definitely recommended. All detectors have their subtle differences.

Yes the Gold Racer in all-metal threshold is the way to go for sure. I generally hunt by audio and can pick most hotrocks by the sound they make. If I'm unsure then I'll just dig it, and if it does appear to be a hot rock, I'll still take these iffy ones home and dolly them up. As with all target ID machines, there is a tendancy for users to use the info on the screen to talk themselves out of digging up a target. When it comes to gold detecting, it should be the opposite, dig everything unless the detector and you feel 100% sure of the target - and even then you'll never know what is underneath unless you dig it out and recheck the hole.

The Disc 1 silent Discrim mode definitely has it's place as the silent threshold filters out a lot of the random falsing you might hear in all-metal. This will allow a higher sensitivity to be used. Just be careful with target signals that may be a little choppy. This could be a target buried a little too deep, so in this instance I'll temporarily flick into all-metal or even Disc 2 to check, or if there's a bit of surface clutter scrape this with my shoe and recheck. With a VLF even getting your coils a couple cm closer to the target can make a difference.

Cheers, Nenad


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#31

oldtimerROB
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18 July 2017 12:16 pm

Thanks for your imput Nenad.I really like the Impact from its looks and solid feel, and its good stability on the goldfields.I haven't spent enough time with it to find gold due to the cold nights which makes camping out unsuitable.When I first tried the unit I made the initial mistake of watching too many videos from Europe and cranking the gain up to 85,especially in D.2 and D.3 and was digging false signals but still some buttons and lead sheet.On the second time out I was using GEN mode with default settings and 20 Khz. Third time out I was using the same but disc. set to 01.That way I could get a low tone for hot rocks and iron and not have to dig up all the signals.I do though still dig up half the signals although they are faint without ID just to make sure I am on the right track and because I am still in the learning phase.Last time brought home a hot rock which felt very heavy for a hot rock.I went out checking the goldfields around Smythesdale and Scarsdale but the tracks were all waterlogged and the areas covered with dense growth or pine plantations which make the old diggings unrecognisable.


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#32

PhaseTech
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18 July 2017 12:24 pm

I like working in the pines, as when they grow they bring the wash up to the surface. Especially after a bit of rain washes the top soil away, look at the base of the pines and you can see what type of ground is in the area. Have pulled quite a few good nuggets right on the base of old pine trees over the years.


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#33

oldtimerROB
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20 July 2017 04:09 pm

I did notice clean gravel at the base of pines but the penny did not drop.Good one Nenad.There are 4 gold bearing gullies 5 minutes drive from my house in the pineies.


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#34

Makronewbie
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21 April 2019 07:19 pm

Hi propspectorpete i have had the gold racer for about few momths still no nuggets or any gold infact. I have found lead shots, bullets, coins, chunks lead .. im about try those setting in video above. Been using disc mode 1 gridding then going over disc 2. Pete if ur still keen in heading out golden triangle id be willing meet up with you mate. This fn detector omg when i going find gold omg. Im in goldfeilds of nsw now . So if i fond something i will post a picture . .. beer


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