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#51

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17 January 2019 01:44 pm

Apparently she had her phone in her possession, it continually rang out for the first 24 hours she was missing, then went flat.
Does point to a sudden end.


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#52

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17 January 2019 02:44 pm

savage bitter wrote:

a lot of what I have seen out western qld is know your limits no your vehical and what it can do and if the worse your car breaks down stay there do some reading on survival and bush craft a skill set that never a waste of time ask stupid questions a lot of travellers I have seen carry over priced useless junk that they don't know how to use and causes more problems
I have done a lot of searches looking for lost or hurt people and simple mistakes are the biggest cause for them to be put into the situation which could of been avoided
basic skills can help and be prepared

Very true mate
What a lot of people dont realize is that those of us that do a lot of prospecting are gdually re ote and by ourselves
At my age i cant handle silly buggers out with me and getting gold fever .
Also like to piont ouf that you can spend as much as gou want on sat phones etc but many real remote areas there is no reception .
Com on sense is your main line of defence .
Know the bush well is your best thing you can do

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#53

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29 January 2019 03:48 pm

They just keep coming!
... not prospecting or outback related, but a 'how to be a dead tourist' in Australia example
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u … e53f272fff

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#54

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29 January 2019 03:58 pm

They are very, very lucky to be alive!! ops


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#55

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11 February 2019 01:57 pm

Bit of a reminder & lesson from the history books ... I was scanning thru old ABC stories when i came across this one from 4th July 2011.
Its a good idea to have at least 1 emergency item (PLB?) handy at all times even when in the vehicle so it can be grabbed when you have to get out in a hurry.
From this I've decided to make a dedicaded holder on my dash for my PLB
https://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/20 … 260729.htm


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#56

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11 February 2019 02:01 pm

It's amazing how many car fires start from dry undergrowth on the exhaust.


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11 February 2019 02:15 pm

yep. the Ford Ranger (& another brand I dont recall) had an issue last year with a guard on the exhaust/DPP collecting grass & catching fire. A friend of my brother had his Ranger go up in flames with that problem.
Always good to be thinking about your exhaust when driving over long grass (or spinifex)!
In my 4WD i have a small extinguisher & a fire blanket under my front seat, & a large extinguisher in the back.


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#58

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11 February 2019 02:24 pm

another old but good article, by survival trainer Bob Cooper in WA
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real- … 51290afc30


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15 February 2019 04:16 pm

I think this story is very relevant to many of us who travel long distances into Never Never Land, especially on gravel roads.
take care everyone. Drive safe.
"Mother of backpacker killed on outback WA-NT Tanami Road wants greater awareness of the dangers"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-15/ … d/10812252
further down the page it goes into "Call for limit to suitable vehicles"


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15 February 2019 04:56 pm

Ded Driver wrote:

I think this story is very relevant to many of us who travel long distances into Never Never Land, especially on gravel roads.
take care everyone. Drive safe.
"Mother of backpacker killed on outback WA-NT Tanami Road wants greater awareness of the dangers"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-15/ … d/10812252
further down the page it goes into "Call for limit to suitable vehicles"

I don't think banning types of vehicals will work the big issue which they don't teach drivers is DRIVE TO CONDITIONS I live on these roads and I have seen 4x4s trucks bikes and al sorts of cars wrecked city people drive like its a highway on our dirt roads with the attitude no cops here go for it and dirt roads can change with in hours from dusty to slop big wheel tracks from the last person so its sad he died but nothing will stop this from happening again unless you DRIVE TO CONDITIONS

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15 February 2019 04:57 pm

How do you tell anyone that they aren't good/experienced enough to do something that they have possibly dreamed of for a long time.
sad


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15 February 2019 06:50 pm

Jaros wrote:

How do you tell anyone that they aren't good/experienced enough to do something that they have possibly dreamed of for a long time.
sad

You can't. That is the sad fact, but common sense has to be learnt not given which that young feller will never have a chance to get now {when it comes to driving on those type roads }but still a lot of young people right themselves off on our roads.

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#63

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15 February 2019 07:48 pm

Best thing the wife and I did a few years ago was a 4wd course, one evening of theory covering everything from tyres, 4wd systems and their use, recovery techniques, suspension etc and a days practical driving in sand, mud, rock faces, gravel, hill starts, water crossings, recovering a bogged vehicle, snatching etc. Drove away from this with a new appreciation of the vehicles capabilities and a new found confidence in driving it safely.


One of these days Ma!

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#64

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15 February 2019 09:17 pm

some parts of some roads in outback WA (& no doubt other states too) are simply just not suited to most 2WD cars & camper vans. A fair few of our tracks & some remote roads are signposted "4WD Only' for this reason. Some of these more commonly used roads should have some money put into them but, rather than ban certain types of vehicles.
Its very unfortunate that a lot of young people (from here & overseas) want to go exploring, but do not always have the experience & knowledge to do so safely. There's good reason why the 20-30yo age group ranks highest in the road statistics


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15 February 2019 10:10 pm

There is nothing better than being trained to use new tools the Right way perfect ....... 4WD Training should come with the purchase of a 4WD....

LW....


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#66

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15 February 2019 11:58 pm

LoneWolf wrote:

There is nothing better than being trained to use new tools the Right way perfect ....... 4WD Training should come with the purchase of a 4WD....
LW....

trouble is LW, not many people are prepared to fork out extra $$ for this training. "I will learn as I go" has a lot of fatalities.


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#67

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16 February 2019 08:19 am

i now it off the topic but i went to wa last year i was amazed how many didn't know how operate there metal detectors just the basics,( caravans,4wds), in my past life i ran a caravan park from seting up tvs to how to engage 4wd my missus just used to piss herself laughing, and the same in wa ,tour operators want to charge 1500 bucks to wine and dine 20 people 1500 x20=30,000 bucks 2 weeks work yes there is things u have over heads but teach them basics spend time with them but it,s way to much money for retirees so i partly blame sales people and peolple buy the gear i been in metaldetecting game for probly 25 years now i never had a saleperson ring me up and say how r u going with my product ?..?

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16 February 2019 08:48 am

A handy way to learn how to 4wd is joining a 4wd club and going on a few weekend tours, you’ll have the opportunity to see, experience and learn in a fun environment without any exorbitant cost

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#69

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16 February 2019 10:32 am

Flatlander wrote:

i now it off the topic but i went to wa last year i was amazed how many didn't know how operate there metal detectors just the basics,( caravans,4wds), in my past life i ran a caravan park from seting up tvs to how to engage 4wd my missus just used to piss herself laughing, and the same in wa ,tour operators want to charge 1500 bucks to wine and dine 20 people 1500 x20=30,000 bucks 2 weeks work yes there is things u have over heads but teach them basics spend time with them but it,s way to much money for retirees so i partly blame sales people and peolple buy the gear i been in metaldetecting game for probly 25 years now i never had a saleperson ring me up and say how r u going with my product ?..?

I agree fully the site seers out this way have about 0 on there gear they bought it because a tv show said this is what you need I have seen 4x4s bogged and no hubs locked in this one nob carried a generator around for 3 weeks which he couldn't start and had no oil in it put oil in first pull the amount of people who have all the mod cons and don't even know how to use it but the worse part is the amount of them killing themselves on the bush tracks due to no idea on how to drive on them 9 times out of 10 there are no signs or recommended speed limits you have to deal with stock trucks dust and then the road itself which can be in any condition in the winter months I sometime wish they put a ban on travellers on some roads due to the constant calls to go out and help or fix some people who have no idea what they are doing and when I say this this is their 4x4 or first time on dirt roads

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16 February 2019 11:17 am

A good way to teach people a lot of these skills would be a course called "National Service".

Cheers

Doug


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#71

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16 February 2019 11:23 am

Yep!


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#72

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16 February 2019 12:04 pm

Rockhunter62 wrote:

A good way to teach people a lot of these skills would be a course called "National Service".

Cheers

Doug

I am ex army and national service is not the answer armed forces is not for everyone but start young scouts and grougs like that when I took my kids camping and so on even driving around the property show them stuff what to do what not to do quiz them about things make it a game test their learning skils I know my kids can sort things out if need be

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savage bitter
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16 February 2019 12:26 pm

sorry dude but national service would have to be the most backward idea ever put forward its almost like communist statment

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16 February 2019 02:18 pm

savage bitter wrote:

sorry dude but national service would have to be the most backward idea ever put forward its almost like communist statment

Wrong thread to be discussing national service. I'm sure that the Israelis would disagree with you. I only brought the subject up as I learnt the majority of my bush and driving skills from being in the military.

Cheers

Doug


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16 February 2019 02:26 pm

Ok we will stay on track with the topic. smile


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