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#776

grumpygold
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12 November 2018 10:06 pm

just recently purchased the local made qed thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup


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#777

Reg Wilson
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14 November 2018 01:38 pm

grumpygold, I have not joined the forum you mentioned for a number of reasons.
As mbasco has pointed out, some information is locked for members only, and I don't see much sense in that, although being able to get information and advice straight from the inventor and builder is a definite bonus.
A certain degenerate forum that seems to serve no other purpose than to attack, denigrate, and personally abuse anyone involved with the QED devoted many pages in a disgusting attempt to besmirch my reputation. It was alleged among other things that I was a financier of the QED and was a friend of the owner of the AEGPF forum, whom until this day I have never met. By not joining that forum I attempted to distance myself from these unfounded claims.
'Doug', the owner of AEGPF, although an obviously intelligent person, is totally devoted to the QED to a stage where his obsession sometimes over rides common sense and self control, resulting in getting himself into altercations with other forums and individuals. In one case it led to to jr beatty, myself and one other member being banned for life from the 4umer forum. Doug got into a hostile situation with management, getting himself banned, and although we had only the QED connection, we ended up as collateral damage'. Banned as 'troublemakers'.
The AEGPF can be a most informative forum, and it is my hope that it evolves to a stage where it becomes a little more inclusive and user friendly.
The QED has had a less than painless birth, due to a handful of dedicated knockers and saboteurs, but has survived to become an accepted addition to the range of metal detectors available in this country. Locally designed and built (the only detector built in Australia) the QED is competitive performance wise with machines many times its price, ergonomically miles ahead of most other detectors, and offers speedy personal technical backup.
For many reasons the QED is my favorite detector these days.

Last edited by Reg Wilson (14 November 2018 01:39 pm)


Walmer Central Victoria
Began detecting 1979 Best colour 3Kgs Best patch 340 ozs.

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#778

Dave79
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14 November 2018 05:23 pm

Well said Reg, I also have not joined the above mentioned forum even though I have a QED. I'm a pretty chilled out person and hate confrontation and personal attacks. I love my QED and believe that it is a highly versatile machine that will detect 90 percent of the gold that machines double the price will and I'm a big fan of shopping local and keeping our money in Australia.


Prospecting must be like fishing, the big one keeps getting away!

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#779

grumpygold
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15 November 2018 01:09 pm

i havnt posted over there yet, just a quiet observer at the moment, do not think i will now after your post reg big_smile thumbsup


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#780

grumpygold
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15 November 2018 01:13 pm

Reg Wilson wrote:

grumpygold, I have not joined the forum you mentioned for a number of reasons.
As mbasco has pointed out, some information is locked for members only, and I don't see much sense in that, although being able to get information and advice straight from the inventor and builder is a definite bonus.
A certain degenerate forum that seems to serve no other purpose than to attack, denigrate, and personally abuse anyone involved with the QED devoted many pages in a disgusting attempt to besmirch my reputation. It was alleged among other things that I was a financier of the QED and was a friend of the owner of the AEGPF forum, whom until this day I have never met. By not joining that forum I attempted to distance myself from these unfounded claims.
'Doug', the owner of AEGPF, although an obviously intelligent person, is totally devoted to the QED to a stage where his obsession sometimes over rides common sense and self control, resulting in getting himself into altercations with other forums and individuals. In one case it led to to jr beatty, myself and one other member being banned for life from the 4umer forum. Doug got into a hostile situation with management, getting himself banned, and although we had only the QED connection, we ended up as collateral damage'. Banned as 'troublemakers'.
The AEGPF can be a most informative forum, and it is my hope that it evolves to a stage where it becomes a little more inclusive and user friendly.
The QED has had a less than painless birth, due to a handful of dedicated knockers and saboteurs, but has survived to become an accepted addition to the range of metal detectors available in this country. Locally designed and built (the only detector built in Australia) the QED is competitive performance wise with machines many times its price, ergonomically miles ahead of most other detectors, and offers speedy personal technical backup.
For many reasons the QED is my favorite detector these days.

ive read the disgusting stuff on the mentioned forum, that phsyco is not for me, think he has skitzo syndrome perfect


gpx 4000 / qed / nokta fors gold /garret carrot / field lab kit / hand core drill kit / auger drill machine / field crushers and dolly pots / sieves to 500 mesh /pans ect.

#781

Tathradj
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From: Tathra, NSW
Joined: 17 February 2014
Posts: 8,278
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15 November 2018 06:45 pm

We normally do not engage with "Forum Wars " but myself and another person went on a full scale
attack to defend Reg against the absolute vile and disgusting diatribe that I have ever seen.
.
I have met both Reg and BugWhiskers in person and they are truly delightful people.
.
I now have a QED myself and owing to also " The Detectorist " actually demonstrating the machine showing it's
potential, I am happy to say that please, DO NOT read any thing negative that you find against this machine.
.
I really hate crap being thrown around when a lot of it is nothing more than Bull poop .
.
There is a bit of a steep learning curve but when the penny drops on how to run a QED, You will be rewarded
I assure you.
.
Now, Please, don't involve other forums in here. We keep a very tight reign on such things and I would really like
any one to discuss their findings here in our haloed walls. gemstone


A couple of HiBankers inc. accessories, , QED, 4500, SDC2300, Gt1600,
Aldi, A Prado 4x4, A'Van Cruiseliner and a heck of a lot of determination.
Most importantly, A lot of Good Honest Friends. Maybe one day Lucky.

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#782

grumpygold
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16 November 2018 10:56 am

Tathradj wrote:

We normally do not engage with "Forum Wars " but myself and another person went on a full scale
attack to defend Reg against the absolute vile and disgusting diatribe that I have ever seen.
.
I have met both Reg and BugWhiskers in person and they are truly delightful people.
.
I now have a QED myself and owing to also " The Detectorist " actually demonstrating the machine showing it's
potential, I am happy to say that please, DO NOT read any thing negative that you find against this machine.
.
I really hate crap being thrown around when a lot of it is nothing more than Bull poop .
.
There is a bit of a steep learning curve but when the penny drops on how to run a QED, You will be rewarded
I assure you.
.
Now, Please, don't involve other forums in here. We keep a very tight reign on such things and I would really like
any one to discuss their findings here in our haloed walls. gemstone

hey thanks for all that info, totaly agree 100 percent. is that the show detectorists that you are refering too, or am i misunderstanding as usual lol thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup


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#783

Tathradj
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From: Tathra, NSW
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16 November 2018 06:08 pm

LOL,
Misunderstanding you are. gemstone
Other internet forum sites,
We do not drag crap into here from there.
The Detectorist is code speak for a fellow that I know personally.
I am protecting his name.


A couple of HiBankers inc. accessories, , QED, 4500, SDC2300, Gt1600,
Aldi, A Prado 4x4, A'Van Cruiseliner and a heck of a lot of determination.
Most importantly, A lot of Good Honest Friends. Maybe one day Lucky.

#784

grumpygold
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16 November 2018 11:56 pm

Tathradj wrote:

LOL,
Misunderstanding you are. gemstone
Other internet forum sites,
We do not drag crap into here from there.
The Detectorist is code speak for a fellow that I know personally.
I am protecting his name.

oky doky got ya perfect


gpx 4000 / qed / nokta fors gold /garret carrot / field lab kit / hand core drill kit / auger drill machine / field crushers and dolly pots / sieves to 500 mesh /pans ect.

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#785

grumpygold
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17 November 2018 12:00 am

found mine a breeze to use so far but no gold to show yet, plenty of the other detecting metal bits and bobs though, so it seems working correctly big_smile

Last edited by grumpygold (17 November 2018 12:01 am)


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#786

savage bitter
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Joined: 28 October 2018
Posts: 392
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17 November 2018 04:45 pm

I have a question about the qed are they a tinker about with type detector over a get it out and start using more like your known brands I have heard the qed you are always playing around with them

#787

Tathradj
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From: Tathra, NSW
Joined: 17 February 2014
Posts: 8,278
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17 November 2018 06:26 pm

They are like any other detector.
Learn to use it properly. thumbsup thumbsup
And for me, I had it humming within an hour.
But, Whack a variable in and learn again.
It is not too hard.
The machine will tell you when it is not happy.
Simple fix.
Practice makes perfect.
And you will be rewarded. thumbsup


A couple of HiBankers inc. accessories, , QED, 4500, SDC2300, Gt1600,
Aldi, A Prado 4x4, A'Van Cruiseliner and a heck of a lot of determination.
Most importantly, A lot of Good Honest Friends. Maybe one day Lucky.

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#788

savage bitter
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17 November 2018 06:31 pm

thanks tathradj I have asked the question I am thinking of buying a nother detector qed or 4500 have read a few things about the qed some real good and some not so but some of the tests on line look pretty good for the qed and half the price

#789

petere
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From: Portland Vic
Joined: 12 August 2014
Posts: 53
Member
17 November 2018 08:54 pm

About 4 yrs ago I bought myself a 5k. I am probably not the sharpest tool in the shed but it took me a long time to come
to grips with all the settings, if I ever did. After 18 months of ownership and a 0.13gm bit of gold to my credit I
figured it wasn't real good earnings per dollar value of machine, but to be fair in that time I probably only spent a
total of 40 or so hours of use, so the 5k was passed on to someone who could make better use of it. I had been following
the lead up to the QED and when they became available I purchased one of the early ones from Dean in Dunolly. To this day
I have not regretted my decision. From day one I was getting targets but I am still learning new things about it. Can be
frustrating at times but with perseverance you will be rewarded. Howard the designer/builder is an absolute top bloke and
will go out of his way to help you. No it hasn't got auto ground balance but it makes up for that in other ways like a
readout of the ground mineralisation extent. I think the QED is a real value for money detector and I don't feel as though
I am missing out on anything by not owning one of the more expensive machines.
Cheers

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#790

goldrat
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From: Dunolly, VIC
Joined: 15 February 2014
Posts: 149
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18 November 2018 09:59 am

petere wrote:

About 4 yrs ago I bought myself a 5k. I am probably not the sharpest tool in the shed but it took me a long time to come
to grips with all the settings, if I ever did. After 18 months of ownership and a 0.13gm bit of gold to my credit I
figured it wasn't real good earnings per dollar value of machine, but to be fair in that time I probably only spent a
total of 40 or so hours of use, so the 5k was passed on to someone who could make better use of it. I had been following
the lead up to the QED and when they became available I purchased one of the early ones from Dean in Dunolly. To this day
I have not regretted my decision. From day one I was getting targets but I am still learning new things about it. Can be
frustrating at times but with perseverance you will be rewarded. Howard the designer/builder is an absolute top bloke and
will go out of his way to help you. No it hasn't got auto ground balance but it makes up for that in other ways like a
readout of the ground mineralisation extent. I think the QED is a real value for money detector and I don't feel as though
I am missing out on anything by not owning one of the more expensive machines.
Cheers

Hi Petere ,
Nice to hear such a positive report . Ergonomically very comfortable to operate for long periods .
Where do you detect and what are your finds . Happy hunting .

Cheers
goldrat


To sleep under stars by the millions from whence came the gold long ago ,
to give thanks I'm here and living and to sleep by the camp fire glow .

#791

petere
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From: Portland Vic
Joined: 12 August 2014
Posts: 53
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18 November 2018 12:00 pm

Hi goldrat
Yes I forgot the ergonomic bit, nice to not be tethered to your detector all the time. I have spent a bit of time around laanecoorie and wanyarra areas also had a look north of dunolly recently. Don't get to get out that often hence the reason for not wanting a lot of money tied up in equipment. Will be at beaufort around the end of this year camping for a while. Seem to find plenty of bullets lead shot rusty nails boot tacks etc. you name it everything but gold. Anyway I still enjoy getting out in the forests.
Cheers

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#792

goldtrapper
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18 December 2018 02:08 pm

Has anyone used or have knowledge of the Detec 18 X 12 Monoloop Open Design coil being used with the QED and any results gained. The information on the coil says good for sub grammers up?
Any information would be appreciated.

#793

grumpygold
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18 December 2018 03:18 pm

mine has auto ground balance button, all the new ones have anyway. mine works about 95% to 100% thumbsup accuracy.. thumbsup


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#794

Dog Ranger
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18 December 2018 07:29 pm

Mine can be a little fiddly at times to settle, but once it is good little unit. Mind you as I only paid $700 with 3 coils second hand I don't have to get much out of it to be worthwhile having thumbsup

Last edited by Dog Ranger (18 December 2018 07:46 pm)

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#795

grumpygold
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18 December 2018 10:44 pm

theres a good video on youtube, doing gb on the fly, just pump up and down like the minelabs, havnt tried it yet, but looked to work ok, theres around 30 instructional vids on there now saves reading the manual, and easier to understand. heres a link youmay have to subscribe though mate. thumbsup https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCRTuk … ImQ/videos


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#796

Rush
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19 December 2018 10:29 am

The latest update to the QED user manual is even better now that includes YouTube links to those instructional videos and extra info such as the Quick Start Guide & Advanced Setup Guide. Since the release of the QED the updates to both the detector and manual has made it a worthwhile option.

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#797

grumpygold
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19 December 2018 10:11 pm

Rush wrote:

The latest update to the QED user manual is even better now that includes YouTube links to those instructional videos and extra info such as the Quick Start Guide & Advanced Setup Guide. Since the release of the QED the updates to both the detector and manual has made it a worthwhile option.

yep pretty professional looking now, on par with all the other major brands, i like the youtube refs, and thhe quick start guide. thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup


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#798

Reg Wilson
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20 December 2018 01:51 pm

When I spoke to Howard the other day he related that QED sales have been quite steady and it seems that people who had the patience to master the machine were getting rewards. The QED is different in a number of ways from the most popular brand, and requires a different approach, but it is surprisingly powerful for such a compact unit. Modern miniaturization has enabled Howard to build a very functional light weight detector that does not need any harness or support system. This is a great benefit at this time of the year. No sweaty, heavy harness, or cumbersome detector with 'cripple' stick. As light and ergonomic as the new generation of VLF detectors, but having that extra PI punch.
I have had a few reports of good QED finds lately, however, the finders are reluctant to post their finds due to the treatment received by James Beatty and myself when we posted some very nice gold recovered by our QEDs. We were accused on more than one forum of fraud, due mainly to the calendar on the camera being incorrectly set. (which is easy to do if you do not place importance on setting that function) One feral forum in particular seems almost entirely devoted to not only rubbishing the QED but making personal attacks on anyone who happens to own one. That particular forum now appears to be in its last death throws. The funny part of that saga has been that some people had their curiosity aroused by such denigration, to the point of doing some research on the QED only to discover that this was a competitively priced and most competent detector. 'Halfwit's' campaign has actually helped the QED gain acceptance. How ironic.


Walmer Central Victoria
Began detecting 1979 Best colour 3Kgs Best patch 340 ozs.

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#799

Heatho
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From: Sydney, NSW
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Posts: 13,107
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20 December 2018 02:09 pm

Reg, I do know what happened though, the QED has been given a fair go here and it's good to have someone with your experience with prospecting and the QED here regularly posting but it would be good if we could keep this site as a neutral zone, just saying...

Anyway I agree, the QED is definitely proving itself as a good gold detector.


Minelab GPX 5000, SDC2300, CTX3030, Equinox 800, patience, lot's of patience.

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#800

mbasko
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From: Central West NSW
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20 December 2018 02:30 pm

Yep I posted a few pics of some gold I found with the QED on this forum & never got any negative feedback/comments or accusations of legitimacy here from members!
Don't understand why other QED users on this site wouldn't post finds with it, if they wished to do so, as it's been proven that the nonsense doesn't happen here (or if it did would be removed).
Personally I stopped posting a lot of finds after some other narky comments that had nothing to do with machine brand/type & well before the QED.
I actually copped more flak from some of the QED cliche for posting up some genuine concerns (although minor + some since rectified) & nuances of QED. That led me to ditching it not any anti QED sentiment. So that's a bit ironic too - the fervent QED supporters can also have a detrimental effect on it.
From the recent instructional videos put on YouTube I am more than confident I had a pretty good handle on how to set up/use it so broad swipes at ex-users not mastering it aren't always accurate IMO.

Last edited by mbasko (20 December 2018 02:33 pm)


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