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Goldchaser1
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09 June 2018 11:09 am

When i built our trailer a cuppla yrs ago i put a 200 watt panel up the front of the frame,just layed flat,not ideal but i thought being so large it will still give us enough power on most trips,on its maiden voyage we got to nullagine from Kal,i was checking bits on the trailer and was shocked to see the glass on the panel was totally shattered,being such a large panel with the wind etc it just wobbled and shattered the glass all over,it made it home and was still working ok it seemed,so i sika flexed two bits of alluminium rhs to the back of it,held togethor until now but probably not working to max potential.
So a bit of a heads up,i’ll never buy a panel for a trailer that big again,to much flex in them,just made up new mounts for two 100w and angled for a wind deflector,park west nth west roughly and we should get a bit more out of these in the arvo i think being angled also....
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09 June 2018 12:19 pm

Mate great post thumbsup thumbsup ..................... another example of what may look like a great idea at the time, turns pear shaped once put into practice. Do you reckon definitely wind or vibration also had a play in it ? I ask as have one on the roof of canopy (160 watt size) and has done a few big trips with no prob so far (fingers crossed) but I also have it mounted on rubber isolators and being on a fiberglass canopy would also absorb a lot more vibration than trailer mounted I should think ?. Have to agree I think several smaller panels are a better idea with the plus factor being, that if one packs up you don't lose all solar thumbsup
Have a portable solar panel also, which I find you can get a lot more out of by being able to move it around as the day progresses. Best part about mounting though, is you don't have to work out how or where to pack / carry the buggers. Plus as you have mounted, you gain the benefit of a wind deflector also. Have looked at the roll up type, but apart from cost factor they also come with issues.

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Rockhunter62
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09 June 2018 12:58 pm

Dave we had the same problem on our 260 watt panel we mounted on the camper trailer. A rock landed on ours first tho. I have poured UV stabilised 2 pack resin over the whole thing now. Still works fine and we also put a couple of bits of rubber block under neath to support the panel when it is stowed away. Next time I replace the panel it will be with the type without the tempered glass. Once bitten twice shy.

Cheers

Doug


Forest Gump once said "life is like a detector going beep, you don't know what it is till you dig it up"

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Goldchaser1
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09 June 2018 01:08 pm

Bogger im sure it was the wind pressure,when i seen it at nullagine i then realised how badly it flexed cause i was a bit dumbfounded as to why it happened,press in the middle a bit and it just flexed up or down,didnt even cross my mind when i fitted it,hardly any dirt up to the nullagine from here so im sure it wasnt vibrations,yours is prob ok you have it on a solid roof,no pressure from underneath,that panels about 1600x800,the length is the issue i reckon,if i put these on before hand i think it would of been fine1528509901_abf18c2f-4561-497a-b81a-fcd7ecaf6b2a.jpg
and yeah i agree smaller ones linked up in case ya have failures is a better option
we got 120 fold outs to but geez some of them rollouts are lookin good now,prices have come down heaps hey.....

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09 June 2018 01:17 pm

Rockhunter62 wrote:

Dave we had the same problem on our 260 watt panel we mounted on the camper trailer. A rock landed on ours first tho. I have poured UV stabilised 2 pack resin over the whole thing now. Still works fine and we also put a couple of bits of rubber block under neath to support the panel when it is stowed away. Next time I replace the panel it will be with the type without the tempered glass. Once bitten twice shy.

Cheers

Doug

the flexible ones doug?
i wanted to go that route but in the end id have to mount it or them on some backing so there goes my weight saving plan i thought,prob end up the same,a single 260w,that must be huge....

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09 June 2018 01:34 pm

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This panel is 1640mm x 1000mm. Look close and you'll see the cracked glass.

Cheers

Doug

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09 June 2018 01:43 pm

might be time to replace it,i thought ours was still working fine but i plugged just one new 100 in cuppla days ago,layin flat on the trailer box within a few minutes had 14.6 volts,the shattered one i never seen above 13.8 i reckon,just sortin plugs and wires out will have both in series and running this arvo,will report back.....

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09 June 2018 01:58 pm

Doug that's two have appeared to gone the same way ? Here is mine ..................... like new ? It has done quite a few 5000 k trips since being up there and I also have an air gap under it ? Only thing is on those isolator mounts and also fibreglass which is going to take a lot of the shock vibration out. Again good post GC as could save people a heap of bucks in avoiding replacement thumbsup

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09 June 2018 02:16 pm

bogger can see how much flex is in that board for interest sake

glass not the frame......

i mean panel lol

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09 June 2018 02:48 pm

Goldchaser1 wrote:

bogger can see how much flex is in that board for interest sake

glass not the frame......

i mean panel lol

Bugger all actually it's pretty rigid. You can press on centre of panel and it actually compresses rubber isolators more so than flex the panel itself smile

The panel is 1200 x 550 ................... this may be the key to it not occurring going on the size of the two panels that have the problem ?
Definitely food for thought on fitting multiple panels instead of one large panel. thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

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09 June 2018 04:30 pm

Heard about this one the other day. Make sure that your solar panel is secure.

https://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/cair … 98a94f624b

Cheers

Doug


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Goldchaser1
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09 June 2018 04:54 pm

Bogger wrote:
Goldchaser1 wrote:

bogger can see how much flex is in that board for interest sake

glass not the frame......

i mean panel lol

Bugger all actually it's pretty rigid. You can press on centre of panel and it actually compresses rubber isolators more so than flex the panel itself smile

The panel is 1200 x 550 ................... this may be the key to it not occurring going on the size of the two panels that have the problem ?
Definitely food for thought on fitting multiple panels instead of one large panel. thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

Oh ok bogger mines 810 wide,dougs 1000,no wonder yours is rigid,
hooked mine up and the controllers telling me i have 7.5-7.7amps going in,panels putting out 43.5 volts seemed good,wasnt over the moon really with the amps,checked a few connections etc but not bolted down yet so a cuppla blocks under them lifted 6” got them straight to 8.64 odd so just the winter sun and the angle,reckon theyd go 9.5-10 under perfect conditions by the looks,im stoked.....

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09 June 2018 05:06 pm

Well cracked a bushchook and sat down,few minutes later crash bang,should not of left them perched on blocks,panels look ok,some rewiring needed mad

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09 June 2018 05:58 pm

Goldchaser1 wrote:

Well cracked a bushchook and sat down,few minutes later crash bang,should not of left them perched on blocks,panels look ok,some rewiring needed mad

BUGGER sad Give them both a VOC check ? Would be also interesting between the old and new ?
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09 June 2018 06:00 pm

Rockhunter62 wrote:

Heard about this one the other day. Make sure that your solar panel is secure.

https://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/cair … 98a94f624b

Cheers

Doug

I bet the owner of van that finds his solar panel gone will be calling the police roll ....................... NOT wink

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09 June 2018 06:43 pm

Bogger wrote:
Goldchaser1 wrote:

Well cracked a bushchook and sat down,few minutes later crash bang,should not of left them perched on blocks,panels look ok,some rewiring needed mad

BUGGER sad Give them both a VOC check ? Would be also interesting between the old and new ?
thumbsup

unplugged them real quick was worried a panel might of got shorted,only broke the pos wire off the pair,fixed and bolted in,will check voc tomorrow but all seems normal on the regulator.....

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11 June 2018 07:10 pm

Reckon a rock might have caused the break mate, or just the jarring motion from the trailer bouncing in potholes etc.
My van has a big panel on it and it's been fine for many trips, but it probably doesn't get bounced like a light trailer, that might be the difference.
You can get flexible panels too, they are dearer and not as hardy as the surface scratches easily, no idea on how that effects output though.


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14 June 2018 06:43 pm

Well all lookin good,extended trip coming up so just goin over a few bits and pieces,put a anderson plug near the batteries for our fold outs also,so 320 watts of panels all up im hoping to keep 80 waco going,lights,waterpump and charge uhf’s and detectors etc,bought this the other day also for backup,hopefully not needed.....1528962163_feff305c-034b-47db-bac7-a34450b91bfc.jpg

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14 June 2018 09:05 pm

Should do it GC ................ running an 80 and a 40 and a 120 panel nearly keeps them going. Just need to add the fold out every now and then to bring it back up. But I do use the 40 litre for butter, milk and drinks etc that saves opening up the 80 and letting the paddock in every time yikes That's one thing I like about the new 80 litre waeco in that it has the two separate lids. thumbsup

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15 June 2018 06:01 pm

Bogger wrote:

Should do it GC ................ running an 80 and a 40 and a 120 panel nearly keeps them going. Just need to add the fold out every now and then to bring it back up. But I do use the 40 litre for butter, milk and drinks etc that saves opening up the 80 and letting the paddock in every time yikes That's one thing I like about the new 80 litre waeco in that it has the two separate lids. thumbsup

thats pretty good going bogger,we seem to be just unable to keep in front of the power usage normally,batteries slowly head towards 12.0 volts over 4-5 days but near all our trips are that length between work so where ok,i dont get the fold outs fired up unless its cloudy,on paper we should shite it in now i think.
was down at bcf the other day and had a squizz at the new waco’s,they look good,not overly impressed with ours but fixed im hoping she’ll be ok for a few yrs at least,engels were sitting next to the waco’s,id have to go an engel next,rolls royces i think... smile

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15 June 2018 07:40 pm

I think I only get good battery life due to the 80 not being opened all the time. Mines the older style 80 litre although not the earliest version. The early models had the 240 volt unit as a transformer and mine has it built into the fridge itself. It hasn't missed a beat in 10 years ................ fingers crossed as I say that. The Engel are good but the stainless cabinets prone to fracture a little on heavy corrugations I have seen and been also told. Again probably would depend a lot on where it's carried in vehicle or trailer and as always most things have their pros and cons. One trick I do with mine is remove rear panel and clean all the dust a debri out of the refrigeration / electrics area. Surprising how much gets drawn in there. thumbsup

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Goldchaser1
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16 June 2018 05:33 pm

yeah ive got the transformer box with mine,had to convert the fridge to ver B which is your model im guessing,(earlier top switch panel not available) good tip on the cleanout,ive never bothered with ours,also gonna silicon around the edge on that switch panel bogger,keep dust etc out,wife picked it up like new for $400 so even with the fix owes me $700,cant complain really....


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