New Fisher on the way - F19

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Looks like fisher are tweaking the Gold Bug Pro. The fisher facebook page has a photo from a trade show overseas. Keen to see how this pans out.

Can't post the link yet (haven't made 10 posts) but check out the fisher research labs group on facebook if interested.
 
Been heavy discussion re it and the new to teknetics on the dankowski forum too
 
19Khz :rolleyes: would have been more interested if they had a new duel frequency
model out, maybe incorporate the GB2 71Khz with the 19Khz of this re vamp..

Pete
 
Pete_&_Rie said:
19Khz :rolleyes: would have been more interested if they had a new duel frequency
model out, maybe incorporate the GB2 71Khz with the 19Khz of this re vamp..

Pete

Expect a CZ-21/F75 hybrid in about a year. Until then be happy with your single frequency machines from Fisher :p
 
Ben78 said:
Pete_&_Rie said:
19Khz :rolleyes: would have been more interested if they had a new duel frequency
model out, maybe incorporate the GB2 71Khz with the 19Khz of this re vamp..

Pete

Expect a CZ-21/F75 hybrid in about a year. Until then be happy with your single frequency machines from Fisher :p

The CZ21 is a water machine.

The CZ3D is the land machine and is awesome for really old coins as long as the ground is not highly mineralized.

There are a few out there and I am one of them hoping and waiting the next machine would be a digital CZ3D.

Made lighter with same CZ3D concept, faster processing with an ability to work in high mineralisation would be one awesome machine.

The CZ3D uses multi frequency technology and were made in the old plant and now the new plant. The older ones which start with serial 1021
which were made in the old plant before they moved have a higher reputation. 2nd hand on a CZ3D they sell for about $600 US.

Mine has been tested and tuned by Tom D to detect a dime at 11.9".

The F19 has iron audio control which is going to be neat to say the least. When iron is detected with my G2 (and I think it will be similiar for the F19)
it grunts over iron. With this new feature I am presuming you can turn down the dial so you can barely hear the iron grunt. How awesome is that going
to be at unmasking the goodies among iron if this is the way it will work. This machine though will not be for everyone.

Its more of a specialised detector where your looking for stuff like buttons and coins and gold jewelry in high trash areas.

http://www.fisherlab.com/hobby/fisher-f19-metal-detector.htm

The XP Gold Maxx which has been around now for a while also has the iron volume control.

http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector/Gold-maxx-power

In my opinion Fisher/Teknetics are on the right track with this new feature.
 
Its truly amazing that in this day and age, where a company has had more than one model to get it right..they still haven't. The complexity involved in something as simple as wanting to turn the volume up or down, has Fisher dumbfounded. Read the manual to understand what im talking about.

Anyway....
The audio from the F19 is very sharp/abrupt/tight, very fast recovery, almost to fast....blink and you'll miss it. Very good at holding a steady number for our coinage, even when placed on edge. Yet the response from one or our coins was no bigger in response than a small bit of foil or jewelry . Both emit a very narrow sound/response.

Maxing out the gain was met with only a small amount of chatter working in the backyard, mind you this yard like many in suburbia, is surrounded By sheds, power lines and houses right round. Lowering the gain is your only defense with this unit should your area of operation be littered with EMI. Unfortunately with the F19 if you encounter bad EMI...tuff titties. It has no freq off set adjustments or anything on board that you'd expect from a unit costing a tad over 1k to deal with such a common problem.

Signal acquisition is very precise, using a pretty rapid wiggle your able to single out close by metals and winding up the disc lets you weed out the evil ones reasonably well. Changing the iron audio is something im not all that fussed on being the owner operator of the v3i. If you use mixed mode audio you'll know what im talking about.
The F19 will hit old roofing nails that have the lead cap, it also hits the old nails that are gal coated with the lead cap.Yet they both respond better in one direction than the other, and given the wiggle, you can pick them most of the time....if their bent like a horse shoe...all bets are off. The F19 also signals loud and clear on most anything thats round with a hole in it....no matter the level of rust. if its round, its a ring to the F19. Yet take that rusted ring when its out, and present it to the coil on different angles and it will vanish like a fart in a fan factory. Unlucky i guess that i got a couple that were presented with the hole facing up. Im happy to dig such things as they could be relics.....and this is marketed as a relic detector.... :D
It uses VCO audio in the AM mode...i hate that.
It also has VCO audio when using v-break.....i can deal with that.

Ergonomically in my opinion, its a pig, mostly due to the 10x5 coil being filled with resin by the solidness and feel of it.? This makes it very unbalanced when first picking it up, but it sits ok without the need for the arm band. But you will notice the weight of the coil. Yet the coil performance wise is tight in operation.
Sturdy enough to the feel, yet the toy like appearance causes eyebrow moments reminding you of how much it costs. The coil plug is an accident waiting to happen, it pokes out from the rear of the c/box just begging to be altered by whatever means able to adjust its position due to Murphy's law.
It also runs off a single 9v battery, while it does this ok......its the year 2015.

Not that its advertised with anything, but mine came with a carry bag, under-chin earhones, a nugget finding DVD, and something else from memory.? And i cried about the price till i got it a tad cheaper...whats wrong with that.???

Was this a review of the F19?...nope!...just an observation from a few quick tests and comparisons between it and the Fors gold and MXT.
 
Found a good coin program for the F19 today'

Disc everything To 67 then set the notch width to 12 and move it from 88 to 100.

Shade out between 67-75 with the V break...

What this means is you only end up with 50c $1 $2 coppers and silvers, but setting the v break from 67-75 means a 50c will be a low tone, only dig if the numbers don't jump around to much otherwise it's got a good chance of being trash.
Volume set at 7'.

From 1-8 is volume up and down, 9-20 will change the volume between ferris and non ferris.

This machine is starting to get interesting! There seems to be just enough settings to get complicated and not have to continue going back to the book, nice round targets like a coin laying flat won't jump around' they will on there side but at a different angle they seem to settle down, sweep slow over iffy targets like a coin on its side and it makes a huge difference.

But just wanted to post up a very basic coin setting to those that just do a quick park hunt.

Depth seems fine but you would want a bigger coil for the beach and I'm looking at a 13" NEL.

Obviously using Disc features has its disadvantages and if you don't want to miss a gold ring dig everything just sometimes you only have time for a quick hunt and settings like this are perfect.
 
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