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#51

Eurekaman
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30 November 2014 09:29 am

Moneybox wrote:

Come on guys this is meant to be "Bash a detector" thread mad You've all got too much love for your machines to be here....

I just bought the SDC2300 on it's reputation for finding small gold. I hope it lives up to it because first impressions are all bad. Perhaps we're spoiled by first buying the Garrett ATX and the White's GMT.

We've only just unpacked it which I must say is easy as it comes complete. The first time we turned it on it was embarrassing to say the least. We were on a public beach with a machine that would do nothing but scream it's brains out. It does and EMI scan on startup so there's nothing we could do there. We hit the ground balance button but unlike other machines it doesn't seem to need to be pumped up and down but we tried. We tried all settings and ended on Salt-1 because that was as quiet as we could get. We set the threshold as low as it would go but we never really found a threshold at all. All up we spent about 30 minutes and gave up.

Next attempt we were more careful. We went to the beach at night while it was raining so not too many about. I gave up after a few minutes and left Sandra to it. I went one way with the ATX and she went the other.

Third attempt was last night on a busy beach at Waikiki that where we were snorkling earlier in the day. It was dark apart from street lighting and there was intermittent rain. Still there were a few people about and a few cars stopped at the sight of the headlamps and LED's roaming the beach. This time we used headphones but that was not good. It's not so bad when the detector is just carrying on for all to here but with the headphones on it's unbearable.

Sandra just threw it back in the boot and came and shared the ATX. One digging and one detecting. We found a few coins and a 50mm gold earring. Hopefully it's real gold but can't tell for now.

All in all bringing an SDC2300 to Hawaii was a waste of time, energy and money sad

Well did you smash the useless thing on the ground
After all it is only bash a detector
And it only money lol big_smile
EM


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#52

Goldtarget
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04 December 2014 08:06 pm

Have submissions closed? I'm dreaming of that bomb!

#53

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05 December 2014 08:10 am

I guess they should I suppose, I don't really know who to choose as the winner, some have done a great job at it. Who do you guys think should win, you can nominate yourself in this thread too, lol.

I'll keep my part of the bargain, just need to pick a winner, let's try and pick one by next week sometime. I'll put up a pic of the terrible looking prize today or tomorrow sometime. smile


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#54

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05 December 2014 08:38 am

Ok I've narrowed it down to you Goldtarget, Twapster and Moneybox. Now Moneybox was the only one to mention a specific brand and model in their rant (only said rant cause you guys understand that is not an insult, rants can be funny smile ), although when that SDC gets back to Aus things will be fine and it will probably find heaps of Gold sooooo it's not really a deserved bashing of the SDC but very good none the less. smile

Hmmmm Twapster always bloody wins the Sapphire soooo I dunno, would almost not be unfair for him to win again, though was a good effort.

GT, you wrote more than I could really read again but....... there was nothing really venomous in there, I wanted to see Taipan type venomous and aggression. smile

Tough one, will have to drink on it errrr I mean sleep on it and choose a winner.

SD was looking like the real winner but he is MIA, hope he comes back, not a bad bloke just needed to chill a bit, good sense of humour too but lost the humour for a little while there. sad Everyone needed to chill for a bit to ease the tension that was building.

Anyway this thread was meant to be fun, somewhere to vent without clogging up the forum, all in good humour and not a personal attack on anyone. smile Extra smily to prove it.


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#55

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05 December 2014 09:07 am

The prize......... I picked one that is Blue and shows a tiny bit of colour on the edges, is a Hexagonal shape too so you can tell it's a Sapph and not just a rock. big_smile

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#56

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05 December 2014 06:05 pm

Ill fire a shot. Sdc. Firstly the colour, atx and its green is better than this blue they came up with, it makes it look decidedly dirty, guess you can give it a wash, plastic housing, scratch it up. Nice to see that all that cash buys you housing that more than likey is a recycled bin lid. At a minimum its a left over detector regutted. I wonder is there is a discount if I bring in my own housing?

Head phone adaptor. Enough said if you have seen one. Great its such a "nice" feeling to have to buy a $100 acc just to put the sound through my ears instead of a speaker. Seriously wtf? The designer on that came to work hung over that day or maybe stick one to the company for being under paid, either way derserving of an assault. At least one. From each buyer.

Water proof. Fantastic now we can detect tiny almost microscopic gold from an environment harder to retrive from than traditional gold bearing ground, absolute winner. And tiny freaking lead shot too, just to add to the excitment, because I just love digging a hundred pieces of lead shot everytime I go out. Nothing like adding a degree of difficulty to really make detecting a challenge. Look at this sub gram piece of lead shot I just fished out of this creek, it only took me three hours. And I got wet. What about winter? Wont catch me swimming or fishing for yellow in freezing water, so it useless for a few months of theyear. I dont like wet shoes even in summer. You can wash it. Big eggs. Maybe I dont want to clean it. Any way whats wrong with a cloth and a rag? If its raining well thats different. But I dont like wet shoes. Would it be cheaper without water proofing?

Pin pointing specifically pin pointing using a mono. Like putting the keys in the ignition after a three day bender. It will happen eventually but it will test the patience. On mostly sub gram. Hand clap. Unless its a piece of aluminium, then its easy. It screams. On every piece. Everytime.

Fixed coil. So after 4 grand I get one coil. One coil! A mono. 8 inch. Forever. Fan freaking tastic. It has a swivel. Its still one coil only. Nail in the coffin.

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#57

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05 December 2014 06:27 pm

Farout Panda that was nasty, lol, hmmmm I don't have any Green Sapphire bombs, how you going to like the prize if it's Blue? Blue is the colour of royalty, the SDC is a beautiful Blue (I'm biased) and scratches to the housing only add character. smile

Ok your in, my competition my rules.

Just need some nominations from other members, needs to be democratic. Remember you can nominate yourself and or convince/bribe others to nominate you also. big_smile


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15 December 2014 05:25 pm

Great post Panda.

I would like to take a shot at Garrett Australia if I may???....... big_smile

Dear Garrett Australia and Retailers of Garrett.

In Australia we have the internet, admittedly not very fast, but it does reach the USA, and some of us use it to see what prices you sell your products for elsewhere.
We know that we "Cant" legally buy your products online from the USA, but some of us who have even better internet connections can Google how to get around this.
Your products would be a lot more attractive at their native pricing rather than the pricing retailers here in Australia are trying to get even when our dollar was at parity.
It seems to me to be a pricing structure more suited to what Minelab are doing, rather than trying to get some traction in our market.

GD

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15 December 2014 06:15 pm

Maybe someone between the manufacturers and the suppliers is milking the system and ripping everybody off,.. probably the same with everything everywhere though. Maybe they are called the middle men, and would be extremely hard to finger from anywhere, and would be found to be most actively involved in shipping and importation, with multiple monopolies and franchise areas all under their control. The sad thing is that they would believe that nothing could happen in this world without their kind of people being active and pulling a kings ransom of worth out of us all along the way. They are probably very active in bringing about restrictions on individuals abilities to bypass them via the internet, and more than a few of them would have moved up into a political position of power over time and caused our industries to collapse and our reliance upon imports of all kinds.


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21 December 2014 01:46 am

I'd like to nominate Mr Moneybox for looking after my interests. He bought me this dreadful little machine for my birthday (sorry my dear) so I feel for him that it turned out to be such a lousy decision and appalling waste of our hard-earned cash. cry

We've not tried it yet in Australia but tomorrow we might just take it to a beach or sandpit to give it a go. The problem is that it makes too much noise with or without the earphones. The best (aka worst) example of how damn intrusive the noise is is that when we turned it on recently all the hundreds of parrots high up in the trees all suddenly screeched and flew off in fear. Their squawking was loud, horrendous and long-lasting... but still the rotten SDC2300 managed to drown them out. yikes How's that for noise pollution?! Even wearing the headphones around the neck on the shoulders is not enough to reduce the horrendous noise so close to my ears. It is painful - literally!! It would make a great torture device and drive anyone nuts in a short period of time. mad

I'm sure there's something that can be done about it but Mr M doesn't want to modify it. He says that you shouldn't have to modify a new machine to get it to work properly. But I say.... just DO IT!!!!!! 8)

Mrs M


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#61

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21 December 2014 08:56 am

Ok ok, you win Moneybox, good on you Mrs M. I still say once you get it set up right it will find the goods. The threshold noise can be annoying but should not be that loud unless you wave the coil over a paint tin. Anyway hope you get it sorted.

PM me a postal address and I'll send you the prize.


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#62

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06 January 2015 03:55 am

Thanks Heatho and all those who contributed. Mrs Moneybox received her very welcome prize yesterday and was over the moon with excitement. It was much more than expected. smile

It was our only chance of getting a sapphire over here but we're heading that way very soon. We'll be attending Minerama and some of the tag-along tours in the hope of finding some more.


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#63

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06 January 2015 02:11 pm

No worries, glad the Missus likes them, thought I'd put a few with colour in for you, addicted now I bet. smile Hope you have a good time at the Gem festival.

All the best.


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#64

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17 February 2015 07:48 am

Gold Diver wrote:

Great post Panda.

I would like to take a shot at Garrett Australia if I may???....... big_smile

Dear Garrett Australia and Retailers of Garrett.

In Australia we have the internet, admittedly not very fast, but it does reach the USA, and some of us use it to see what prices you sell your products for elsewhere.
We know that we "Cant" legally buy your products online from the USA, but some of us who have even better internet connections can Google how to get around this.
Your products would be a lot more attractive at their native pricing rather than the pricing retailers here in Australia are trying to get even when our dollar was at parity.
It seems to me to be a pricing structure more suited to what Minelab are doing, rather than trying to get some traction in our market.

GD

GD, I think a Certain Company Official Lobbied to get the Government to raise the Import Duty on Detectors from overseas, But the Government don't need much to sway them when they find a new way to get more money,
Over here the ATX Is $3810AUD and the SDC is $6301 AUD and the New GPZ is $15280 AUD, the prices you see are just way over the Top,
I have found some shops will give you a Good Price But 99% of the shops are in Agreement with each other to keep the price at a certain Level,
The shop price for my machine is $1795.50 AUD, But One Dealer said $1528 AUD that's $267 cheaper and I never even asked them to Give me A special Price, Most of it Boils down to Retail Greed Not the Companies who Make them But with One Exception to One Manufacturer,


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#65

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17 February 2015 08:28 am

The detector I'd like to bash today.... GPZ7000! $10700? Have we gone mad... The people purchasing this machine do you also drive the top of the range nissan patrol? oops sorry "landcruiser".
Well if I bought the GPZ 7000 I'd have to upgrade from mums old car to a wiz bang 4x4 but as I can't afford both without taking the bank manager to lunch I'll just settle for another company's machine or twist my own arm into a S/H SDC that someone else gave up with....

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17 February 2015 09:28 am

Zuke_Lynzy wrote:

The detector I'd like to bash today.... GPZ7000! $10700? Have we gone mad... The people purchasing this machine do you also drive the top of the range nissan patrol? oops sorry "landcruiser".
Well if I bought the GPZ 7000 I'd have to upgrade from mums old car to a wiz bang 4x4 but as I can't afford both without taking the bank manager to lunch I'll just settle for another company's machine or twist my own arm into a S/H SDC that someone else gave up with....

+1, Sounds Like a Plan, and don't forget all the extras you can buy too as well as Taking the Mrs to Dinner, Just to keep In The Good Books, That's worth A Nugget or Two,


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17 February 2015 09:50 am

Tell the dealers, that there is simply no excuse for the price difference. Importing adds a little, we dont begrudge them on that, but otherwise its a price gouge. You could probably form a buying co-op, to purchase a few from the US, and get a better than list price deal.


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#68

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17 February 2015 10:39 am

rocketaroo wrote:

Tell the dealers, that there is simply no excuse for the price difference. Importing adds a little, we dont begrudge them on that, but otherwise its a price gouge. You could probably form a buying co-op, to purchase a few from the US, and get a better than list price deal.

Well if they were not Price fixing then the machines would be a different price else where Just Like Cars are and TV's etc, So That tells A Person that there is some Kind of Shady Deal Going On, They Can't Tell me that they Just Happened to get of bed and just by Coincidence All Thought of the Same Price, And then you read the recommended Retail Price and it is A Lot more than It's country of Origin, It's the Importers who Claim that is the RRP which Is the first Lie, A Classic example is look at this price for the SDC Quoted as in A Sale at £3299.00 or $6309.00AUD and above that it says £3400.00 or $6494.00, So can any One Tell me when the Last SDC Sold for $6494.00 in Australia.

http://www.crawfordsmd.com/metal-detect … l-detector

or better still How about $800.29c For A Battery For A GPX,

I don't mind paying a few Quid extra, But I am not A Sex Toy and I am Fed up of keep Getting Bent Over By Price fixing between Shops, Another Favourite Trick is to Change the $ sign to A £ sign,

John

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17 February 2015 11:08 am

The leishe, or garrett digging tools are half price in the USA. I want to buy one, but it is like getting bent over!


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17 February 2015 11:25 am

rocketaroo wrote:

The leishe, or garrett digging tools are half price in the USA. I want to buy one, but it is like getting bent over!

How much are they there in OZ, and I will see what they are here for ya,


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17 February 2015 03:20 pm

60 something in oz, 30 something in usa.


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#72

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17 February 2015 03:37 pm

The website CheaperOz.com has leschke tools $50-63.
Jaros


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#73

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17 February 2015 03:40 pm

rocketaroo wrote:

60 something in oz, 30 something in usa.

Well the Garrett one is $61.00 AUD her so I will check out the other one.

john


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#74

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10 August 2020 09:45 pm

I know this thread has been run and done but my experience on the weekend had me a bit upset at Minelab, and the SDC V2.

So heres the bash.

Its not my detector but Ive been swinging it. The dreaded out of batteries sound happened and swapped over to rechargables.

I asked to plug the battery pack in and was told theres no charger..

Now I was sure there would be a car charger in the kit, and so I opened the box, and here it is, 2 Alligator clips to attatch to the terminals....What the actual #F is that garbage.

Same random setup as The Monster car charger. I have no idea what they were thinking, but its bull poop to get a 4k odd detector and not have a plug in charger. I even thought the sneaky buggers might have an off the shelf one, but Miners Den tell me Minelab only supply that style.

I dont know who makes these decisions but they need a pay cut. Only thing worse than the price they ask for items is ones that should exist but dont.

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#75

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10 August 2020 11:11 pm

Yep it's pretty poor GT,

I have a GM1000 but haven't really had an issue yet as the GM battery lasts a long time so it's either wait till I get home (if a day trip) or connect to the battery (if camping).

It should be simple enough to cut the alligator clips off and connect a cigarette plug (which I keep meaning to do) then problem solved but yep fully agree with you GT it's pretty p!ss poor of Minelab to not supply a proper car charger.


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