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#1

Nugget
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04 March 2013 09:01 pm

I'll start with the most obvious one. Always take plenty of water, never underestimate how much you might need, you can go days, weeks even without adequate food intake but without clean drinking water you will most likely die.

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the duck
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04 March 2013 10:17 pm

put the topsoil from a bullant nest around your camp to keep snakes away


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#3

WalnLiz
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04 March 2013 11:19 pm

I relay hate cranky bull ants......take plenty of Mortein to kill the bull ants in the topsoil....Cheers Wal wink


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axeman
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05 March 2013 07:47 am

If vehicle breaks down in the desert stay put. Create shade and wait. For a signal fire, drain the engine oil and set fire to it. (I always carry a flint stick). If I get the chance to head outback I'll be getting a spot tracker. smile  Mick


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WalnLiz
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05 March 2013 08:34 am

Invest in a GPS and carry a Topo map.... so if you do get lost you can transfer co-ords from the topo map to your GPS and at least walk out in a strait line.Cheers Wal. smile


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Keen Ken
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05 March 2013 09:27 am

Always make sure the local police or someone reliable Knows where you are going.
Try not to travel in remote areas alone if possible.
In tempreatures over 35 degrees I have drunk up to 6 liters a day, so be prepared.

Just a Warning; A test was done west of Jundah west Queensland by the S.E.S. to see how long a fit man could last in forty degree heat without shelter or water. The guys tongue was swollen and he was beginning to hallucinate after only 2 hours and almost incoherent after 4, he was retreaved at this point.

Carry a personal EPERB, or personal GPS emergancy localion beacon. Flares, a "V" sheet and a morror(polished metal with a hole  in the centre won't break and  you can easily direct your signal).
Stay with your vehicle.

Be sure you are up to date in the current snake bite first aid and have a complete first aid kit.

UHF radio is essential in remote areas as most areas have a repeater station some where.
Hire a satellite phone if you can afford it.

Two rangers got into trouble and one died in the west Queensland out back left there car, had little water and tried to walk back in the heat of the day, and it was only about 14 klms back to base as far as I understand it.
What did they do wrong? What would you do in that situation?
I'm not asking, these are questions you ask yourself before you go.

If you walk any distance from your camp have a note book and draw a detailed map with landmarks and the dirrection and rout you intend to take. Write on it the time and date you are leaving and when you expect to return.Leave it in a promanent position in your tent/camp.

These are a few things that I used to abide by when prospecting for opal in a very remote location in west Queedsland and I'm still here and had little trouble at all. Be prepared for the worth care scenerio.

Hope this helps with you preperations, there is plenty more to consider like food and shelter, fire ignition etc.

Last edited by Keen Ken (05 March 2013 09:28 am)

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WalnLiz
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05 March 2013 10:19 am

Very comprehensive Ken.....I'm heading over to W.A.this winter for another detect.....you can come along if you like. wink Cheers Wal. smile


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Colin&Lee
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05 March 2013 06:11 pm

Couple of compression bandages, a fire starter, and a reflective shock blanket.

Col smile


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BoydWilliam
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05 March 2013 06:53 pm

If you are many miles from civilization, and intend to walk back to a town, walk AT NIGHT!
It dramatically decreases your chances of dehydration, and you will cover many more miles this way.
Obviously your eyes will need to need to become accustomed to the light, but this should only take 20 mins or so. 'Night eyes' are nearly as good as seeing in the daylight, any boyscout will tell you that!
The worst predators you will encounter are the occasional snake which obviously isnt good, but its better than dying of dehydration in the heat of the day!

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Keen Ken
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06 March 2013 12:26 pm

Don't forget the dingos,
Good advise Boyd, just a word of caution.

One of the dangers of travelling at  night CAN be in some areas the fact dingos and other wild dog move about at night.

This happened to one of the property owners that I know.
He was travelling in a very remote location in west Queensland on his way to some frields for dinner, after dark his car broke down and as he was only about 4 klms away from the property he decided to walk on this lovely moon light night.
He had gone about 2 klms and sensed something following, without altering his stride he looked over his shoulder and saw a number of "dogs" following, not sure what they were a few klms. from any property he assumed they were dingoes. '
He kept moving at a sheady pace until he felt a few nipps at his heels. "If I run 'm a gonner" the thought so kept going. He climed the first tree he came to and waited.
The dingoes just camped around the tree, after about 1/2 hour they left.
Not being sure where they went he stayed in the tree.
Eventually, the people he was ment to visit realized there must be something wrong when he didn't turn up and went looking for him.
He was very relieved to see their car lights comming in the distance.
I can not stress enough the importance of letting someone know your intentions and travel details, contacting them regularly at pre-aranged intervals.
For me it was a phone call every 4 - 8 hours from my base camp depending on the distance I had to travel, these days satellite phones and eperbs are the answer.
Hope you all find this helpful and interesting.

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#11

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20 March 2013 09:33 am

Fire sticks. I have one in each car, my boats and the camper. Importantly learn how to use them, without man made stuff its harder than you think. Both my daughters can start a fire using just the things they find around camp. With fire and water you can survive. Fire turns filthy water into drinking water.


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adamaus
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31 August 2013 09:49 pm

i take my duel band uhf/vhf radio also a pigging knife that straps to my leg you can never be to careful


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Gold689
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01 September 2013 10:15 pm

Great Advice from everyone,, big_smile

If you can include this for survival list, GPS tells you the nearest town.
BEAR Grills Knife with flint attached.

And if it cannot be avoided walking DAY or Night, always take or find a decent walking stick with you.
any dangers around start swinging,,, DINNER is SERVED big_smile big_smile

Cheers,,
"B"


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02 September 2013 09:23 am

Great tips for survival. As im not travelling to any remote areas as im only just starting out so the big thing for us was to have a first aid kit and understanding whats in the kit and how to use it.


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14 September 2013 01:37 am

Another fantastic skill to have is First Aid knowledge.  The best investment which can, not only save your own life, but those around you, including your family.


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15 September 2013 12:32 pm

hi everyone,
my first post, thank you to the site owners and moderators for the site...

the duck wrote:

put the topsoil from a bullant nest around your camp to keep snakes away

this is a great tip, thank-you for posting it

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15 September 2013 01:16 pm

Super glue, whistle and electrical tape smile
That combo will keep ya goin till you can get proper medical
Attention smile
Tried and proven.
All the other advice is Ace wink
Great tips

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15 September 2013 01:28 pm

http://www.vks737.on.net/pdfs/survival.pdf

WA Police Academy Bushcraft and Survival Guide.

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gavfromoz
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15 September 2013 11:19 pm

Thanks, Great reading there Loamer smile


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Dal
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25 September 2013 12:08 am

G'day everyone,

Some great advice here, I grew up on the land but have learnt a few more skills by reading your posts. Cheers

Loamer; I will have to take some time to read all of yours as it looks very informative smile

Couple of the simple ones my old man told us as kids,

Don't panic! It can kill ya!

If you have to walk? Follow a gully or water system down steam, of course one of your best chances to find water and civilisation (Don't drink any water with the green algae on top! She'll make ya crook).

Also as your heading out from your camp don't forget to look up occasionally and make a point of taking note of objects of significance around you (Ones you'll remember) and what side of you there on Left or Right.
We used to put a mark (scarf) in tree's but this might be frowned on by some in this day and age? So an alternative is tape or ribbon that you will see, like that pink stuff! Remembering to take it with you as you leave please.

Best of luck to all.


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#21

Nightjar
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26 September 2013 07:18 pm

Hi all,
Some great advice here, best of all is Dal's advice;
"Don't panic! It can kill ya!"

Sit down take stock of your predicament and calmly plan your next move.

Safe travels outhere.

Peter


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15 February 2014 10:46 pm

I was going to post the same link that Loamer has already put up. I would encourage everyone going bush to print it off and keep in their car. It may just save your life. It is the best document of its kind. I have had it for quite sometime. wink


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#23

Goldpick
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15 February 2014 11:47 pm

If working on foot, carry more water that you think you will need, don't know how many people I see carrying one little water bottle, which is great for a short while, but if you get lost or incapacitated, you will wish that you had a hell of a lot more.  A combination of hip mounted water bottles and a camel back is a good compromise between a practical amount of weight and water capacity.

Fill up on water and hydrate yourself before heading out, otherwise by the time you are dehydrated, it is already too late to keep your fluid levels up.  This is especially the case working or detecting in very humid climates in the top end, in which I find that I constantly sweat big time, and really need to be on the ball to ward off dehydration (working in thick QLD Savannah scrub, reinstating claim pegs).  Give salty foods, sweet drinks and coffee a miss.  My previous boss would always constantly drink coffee, and end up pissing most of his water out by midday, he always ended up with mild heat stress and headaches by the end of the day.

Probably the 3 things I would never be without working on foot, is decent water capacity, and abilty to start a fire, and carry a decent knife, preferably a survival type one. A small LED torch would also be a good addition. smile

I've done a few survival courses in my time, and there is nothing like practical experience to make you feel totally isolated, alone and not in control, especialky without the aid of a vehicle with all your goodies packed in it.  To be sitting under a makeshift lean-to in +40 degree heat, to shivering next to a small fire in the dirt in near zero temps during the night is an experience I won't forget in a hurry. smile

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#24

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16 February 2014 08:37 am

The best thing for a signal fire is your spare Tyre this create 's plenty of black smoke that will be seen for miles also knowing how to treat water to make it safe to drink/ boiling filtering with charcoal you can even buy Tablets that treat water etc: in other words, if your going bush with no hospital/ HELP WITHIN quick reach, take some sort of coarse or even buy a survival book FOR THE AUSTRALIAN OUTBACK keep it in the glove box. Knowing how to help yourself will save your life.


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#25

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07 March 2014 08:00 am

" TO HELP YOU STOP GETTTING LOST IN THE BUSH"a hot tip before you even head out...go to your nearest football or rugby oval, stand at one end and line up a landmark eg (goal posts tree building) close your eyes and walk 100 steps directly at that landmark stop and see where you are, most likely you will have walked on an angle to the left or right,this is because one of your legs is slightly shorter than the other, its natural, dont stress,your not bound for a viewing platform at the local carnie freakshow just yet....OK now that you have worked out which way you naturally lean towards when walking in a strait line lets repeat the process(with your eyes closed) except this time at  50 steps your going to stop,turn in the opposite direction that you lean towards, take two normal steps turn back in the direction of your original path walk the last 50 steps and you should be pretty much back in line with your landmark .....this only helps you walk in a stait line you need to look for landmarks if you dont know the area and this principal will help you maitain a strait line to your desired destination big_smile

ps.... the reason i suggest you use some type of oval (soft grassy area) is some people will fall down whilst walking with their eyes closed if you do i would suggest you go and see your GP you might have a balance problem so i suggest you try this with a second person, good luck


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