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#1

Goldpick
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12 January 2014 07:53 pm

Hi guys, I noticed there is an ebay listing for this sought after book in the US, it has valuable info on gain/SAT settings specifically for the GMT and Goldmaster series of detectors. It is currently out of print and extremely hard to find, hence it often achieves rediculous prices up to and over $250US.  The seller of this original copy had it listed for US only, but I persuaded him to sell overseas, needless to say, I can't afford it anymore due to recent detector purchases, but if anyone is interested, here's the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Complete-Un … 5af9f2499a

Last edited by Goldpick (12 January 2014 07:54 pm)


Prospecting gear: Used - Whites GM3, GM2, GMT, ML XT17000, ML X-Terra 305, Garrett Gold Stinger, Tesoro Vaquero, Nokta RS pinpointer, Minelab Explorer SE Pro/Etrac, Ace 250
Current - XP Deus, Equinox 600, Makro Racer 2, Fisher F75, Tesoro Tejon, Teknetics G2, Whites SPP, Garrett Infinium, XP MI-6, Whites Bullseye TRX, Deteknix X-pointer, Garrett AT Pointer

#2

Bonacini
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02 March 2015 09:00 am

Hi does anyone have this book or as a PDF to sell or give away, it is impossible to find

Last edited by Bonacini (02 March 2015 09:00 am)


Couple sluices, SDC, ML pin pointer, various prospecting gear.
Nox 800.

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Daz
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02 March 2015 11:12 pm

Pretty pricey

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Bonacini
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03 March 2015 12:53 pm

Lol how about rent it? I pay a fee to read it then post it back?


Couple sluices, SDC, ML pin pointer, various prospecting gear.
Nox 800.

#5

gedanate
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26 April 2015 09:13 am

You can buy it from Amazon.com for a mere $400 AUD, or so they offer. It'll soon be that the book costs more than the vlf detectors it talks about! roll

http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-unab … rry+Sallee

Last edited by gedanate (26 April 2015 09:15 am)

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kfstevens2370
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18 October 2015 11:31 am

hey I see one of these books posted on ebay for 56$. US

For 2 more days....

#7

gedanate
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18 October 2015 07:56 pm

I couldn't find it at %56 USD.

Instead another is selling for more than $300 AUD: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/The-Complete … Sw4HVWEyIU

8)

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kfstevens2370
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15 November 2015 12:54 pm

Sorry David it was a US posting not AUD posting. I am not allowed to post links for some reaon or I would have given you the link. Can you shot me an email? I'll send you my copy to read.

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gedanate
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15 November 2015 01:56 pm

Thank you. That is very generous. smile
I have just sent you a message.

David

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kfstevens2370
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15 November 2015 04:06 pm

gedanate wrote:

Thank you. That is very generous. smile
I have just sent you a message.

David

No worries David but yah it’s ridiculous how much the book cost these days. On the other hand if it helps you find a gold nugget or two that you normally would have found then it could be worth it. Anyway I’ll you be able to see my copy of the book soon.

#11

PhaseTech
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21 November 2015 01:07 pm

Far out, I had that book when I was running a V/sat. It was good, but really I worked most if it out in the field.

Seems like the book is worth more than the actual detectors!!


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#12

PhaseTech
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21 November 2015 01:12 pm

Not sure if they are still available, but this price is more realistic

http://www.jimmysierra.com/book_completezipzipC.html


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#13

gedanate
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21 November 2015 02:02 pm

The JimmySierra site wants less than $25 for a copy, but it is out of print.

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JakeofallTrades
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27 May 2016 08:56 am

PhaseTech wrote:

Far out, I had that book when I was running a V/sat. It was good, but really I worked most if it out in the field.

Seems like the book is worth more than the actual detectors!!

"This book really is the "bible" of all metal detecting books"

Is it really that good? yikes


Only one on ebay atm at $160 or make a offer is tempting, unless of course a member here has one for sale cheaper? tongue
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Zip-Zip-The- … SwixtXQsLs

If you are anyone serious about gold prospecting with a metal detector than you really should look no farther than Larry Sallee's The Complete Unabridged Zip Zip. This book really is the "bible" of all metal detecting books and is two books in 1. It is true that the book does focus much of its use and knowledge around the Whites models and in particulary the Whites Goldmaster models and even more specifically the GMT model with the super nice autotrack and auto ground balance features. This is because in my opinion that detector is probably among the best in the world especially for the price. This book is out of print and extremely hard to find. When you do find it expect to pay anywhere from 150-300 dollars. If you find a few spares online for 100 bucks or less let me know because I will buy all of them up right now. What makes this book so great is the actual detail that the author goes into about cross screening, ground balancing, slight variations in ground and massive time spent on coil control. This book is not like the hundreds of others out there that are 200 pages long and the first 170 of them are about how some guy and his wife were introduced into metal detecting back in the late 70's and how they just fell in love with all the culture and other aspects. It is real technical knowledge with graphs, skethces, measurments, coil desricptions and everything. He goes into exact settings for the detector for particular soil conditions and how to hunt exactly within those conditions. There is a large chapter on mental focus that goes beyond sleeping good and eating your Wheaties everyday. What I am saying is that there is no book on the market for the raw gold hunter using a metal detector that is better--absolutely no way. I don't think anyone who knows anything would argue this either.

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grubstake
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27 May 2016 10:40 am

JakeofallTrades wrote:

"This book really is the "bible" of all metal detecting books"
Is it really that good? yikes

Only one on ebay atm at $160 or make a offer is tempting, unless of course a member here has one for sale cheaper? tongue
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Zip-Zip-The- … SwixtXQsLs

Here's some background, before you reach for your credit card/Paypal: wink

Larry Sallee wrote two books, of which the one on eBay, Zip Zip - The Advanced Course, is the second. His first was Zip Zip - Mastering Your Nugget Detector (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ … 172&sr=8-1).

The much scarcer/pricier book discussed above, The Complete Unabridged Zip Zip, is a compendium of those two:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ … dition=all
(It's interesting to see Jimmy Sierra selling his personal copy, autographed by the author!)
There's a detailed review here: http://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/0 … ewpoints=1

Last edited by grubstake (27 May 2016 10:41 am)


Where it is, there it is.

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JakeofallTrades
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27 May 2016 11:27 am

Thanks for that "Grubstake", it's on top of my want list, not too people ever many mention this book, maybe because of its price, out of print and being mainly only listed in America

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karelian65
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16 January 2017 06:26 pm

Ok, I'm in Melbourne and have copies of The Complete Unabridged Zip Zip by Larry Sallee, as well as Zip Zip The Advanced Course. Pain in the bum to do a pdf copy, I'll look into it. Leave a close family member as hostage and I might let you borrow a copy.. just might..
The books go into technique, settings, mindset and other aspects in depth. For GMT users it's the bible. I use an MXT and find it relevant as would any VLF or even PI gold prospector.1484551423_zip_zip_books.jpg

Crazy expensive for a book that originally retailed for US $24.99... and worse still very hard to find and then the good ol' boys in the USA don't like to post to Australia.. very frustrating. I feel your pain, I was there until I got lucky.

I'll have a go at scanning the book and converting into a book pdf format.. no promises but willing to have a go at it.

Last edited by karelian65 (16 January 2017 07:10 pm)

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karelian65
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17 January 2017 01:00 pm

Just to give people an idea of what we are talking about in regards to The Complete Unabridged Zip Zip by Larry Sallee, the edition with everything..
I've got some images of the index, should be insightful. Not given up on a PDF copy.1484618274_zipzip_p1.jpg1484618291_zipzip_p2.jpg1484618305_zipzip_p3.jpg1484618321_zipzip_p4.jpg1484618336_zipzip_p5.jpg

Hope this all proves helpful.

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NeilM
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17 January 2017 01:56 pm

Good post KA65

Now I gonna start the hunt as well.
Looks like a vg read.

Neil


ML SDC2300, Pans

#20

Goldpick
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17 January 2017 09:35 pm

Bit of a catch 22, the book is out of print though most likely still covered by copyright laws. Last I heard Larry Sallee didn't want to print any new editions, nor had expressed any interest on selling the copyright to any others for reprint. If you are going to scan the whole book to PDF, best to keep it to yourself, or use the PM service for any further discussions.

Unfortuantely we cannot promote the copying of literature held under copyright on this forum, I know it is a pain, though so are lawsuits. wink


Prospecting gear: Used - Whites GM3, GM2, GMT, ML XT17000, ML X-Terra 305, Garrett Gold Stinger, Tesoro Vaquero, Nokta RS pinpointer, Minelab Explorer SE Pro/Etrac, Ace 250
Current - XP Deus, Equinox 600, Makro Racer 2, Fisher F75, Tesoro Tejon, Teknetics G2, Whites SPP, Garrett Infinium, XP MI-6, Whites Bullseye TRX, Deteknix X-pointer, Garrett AT Pointer

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karelian65
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17 January 2017 11:21 pm

You are spot on, a timely reminder that sometimes it's best to curb our enthusiasm.. end of topic for me.. No further mentions of pdf scans.

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karelian65
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19 January 2017 08:52 am

Since I have two copies I don't mind lending one out, you need to send me a Pm if you are interested. wink

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kfstevens2370
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09 February 2018 08:04 am

Anyway the book is back up on e-bay world wide for starting price of $150

listed title as "THE COMPLETE UNABRIDGED ZIP ZIP by Larry Sallee Metal Detector" under books

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09 February 2018 09:12 am

For the life of me I can't work out why anyone would need to spend that kind of money on that book, The MXT and the GMT are two of the most simple machines ever made, I read the MXT Edge from cover to cover a few times and did not learn anything that I had not discovered in the first 4 weeks, People need to avoid sellers like that because that book is not worth it.


Dig em all,

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kfstevens2370
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09 February 2018 09:01 pm

I did paid over $200.00 for the book and over $200.00 for gold maps of the state I live in. I take the book out with me when prospecting for gold in the Colorado Mountains. My first gold nugget paid for the book. That was four years ago and the book was helpful. Lots of tricks of the trade well-read and learned. The gold maps are helpful too.

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