Must be testing weather..Just finished 2 days with 5000 and 4500..coils were smaller 11,s ..17x11,s ect..15 rounds ,18 rounds Coiltek and nugget hunter new type..All our coils are new type except for a 22 inch nugget finder..We wanted to know Who reins Suppreme..Also had my 24x12 nf..As expected the elliptical mid size coils were better in the shallow ground 12 inches..Because in that depth you are going to have more coil on the target..When we got down to 32 inches and 2 Snapper leads the mid size elipticals were out of their depth..my 24x12 nf..was out of luck also..The winners were 18 round nf and Coiltek equil winners..The 22 nf, round older grey one was also out of luck..The new coils are better than the old ones..We were using enhanced on both detectors..Naturally in Normal setting gave sensational responce as you would expect from that more powerful setting..But you need very quiet ground to be able to use it..We even tried the small coils on Normal thinking they might Run quieter but that didnt work either..Cheers