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#1

Ded Driver
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05 November 2018 02:53 pm

another 2 people dead. Be prepared properly when going into any arid area.
THINK SAFETY. PLAN SAFTEY. PACK SAFTEY. DRIVE SAFTEY. CAMP SAFTEY.
& add more WATER, & a PLB/EPIRB
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-05/ … atenews_wa


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05 November 2018 03:20 pm

I do have a EPIRB from my old boat and a Sat Phone-only costs $15-00 per month thru Pivotel, plus call costs. A HF and CB radio + Common Sense.


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05 November 2018 08:28 pm

Australia is remote enough that for many areas you still need to plan trips thoroughly, as on an expedition, have more than one vehicle, and take lots of water (a single person will drink 5 litres per day in hot weather), fuel, two methods of communication and kit.


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05 November 2018 08:32 pm

Don't forget that a PLB will only help SAR find your body faster after a snake bite argh


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05 November 2018 09:08 pm

proper clothing to good boots or shoes long pants proper hat and so on I saw a bunch out warwick in shorts and thongs sandles walking around the scrub detecting a few weeks back

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Ded Driver
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05 November 2018 09:23 pm

BigWave wrote:

Don't forget that a PLB will only help SAR find your body faster after a snake bite argh

unfortunate but so true Bigwave. whilst most snakes are fairly easily spotted if they are on the move, Death Adders are bastards as they are ambush predators & generally don't move until you nearly step on them. A detector in front of you is a good deflector as well, but its always important to be thinking & watching for snakes anywhere. skull
When I was out last week of Sept, met 2 foreigners who had no idea. 1 wearing shorts but full shoes, the other wearing long pants but with sandals.

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05 November 2018 09:36 pm

savage bitter wrote:

proper clothing to good boots or shoes long pants proper hat and so on I saw a bunch out warwick in shorts and thongs sandles walking around the scrub detecting a few weeks back

Yep that was probs me...Tru blue mate....wont get lost at warrick smile thumbsup


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05 November 2018 10:18 pm

Leonora safety info & Police info advice sheet
https://www.leonora.wa.gov.au/search/de … rospectors


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06 November 2018 12:20 am

a lot of what I have seen out western qld is know your limits no your vehical and what it can do and if the worse your car breaks down stay there do some reading on survival and bush craft a skill set that never a waste of time ask stupid questions a lot of travellers I have seen carry over priced useless junk that they don't know how to use and causes more problems
I have done a lot of searches looking for lost or hurt people and simple mistakes are the biggest cause for them to be put into the situation which could of been avoided
basic skills can help and be prepared

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06 November 2018 12:35 am

Were the two prospectors or just hiking?

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06 November 2018 12:54 am

JonJames777 wrote:

Were the two prospectors or just hiking?

Biker and a hiker. completely unrelated.

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06 November 2018 08:16 am

BigWave wrote:

Don't forget that a PLB will only help SAR find your body faster after a snake bite argh

The families of the deceased will have closure -at least. brokenheart


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06 November 2018 10:13 am

Great Title, I don't know anyone who has a special a place picked out but out in the bush might be a little OTT,

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06 November 2018 12:11 pm

Jaros wrote:
BigWave wrote:

Don't forget that a PLB will only help SAR find your body faster after a snake bite argh

The families of the deceased will have closure -at least. brokenheart

Many or most survive snake bite even untreated - but not only will a PLB improve the odds (unconscious people don't drink water), but it might save limbs etc.


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06 November 2018 04:05 pm

goldierocks wrote:
Jaros wrote:
BigWave wrote:

Don't forget that a PLB will only help SAR find your body faster after a snake bite argh

The families of the deceased will have closure -at least. brokenheart

Many or most survive snake bite even untreated - but not only will a PLB improve the odds (unconscious people don't drink water), but it might save limbs etc.

Absolutely true about finding the body faster...

Search and Rescue found my body, albeit a very groggy body, after being tagged by a brown snake on the hand climbing up a creek bank. I pressure bandaged it, set off my PLB, had a chopper over my head in about an hour, made it to hospital, spent quite a while recovering, still alive right now.

What was your bad experience with a PLB?

My experience a few years back was quite good. saved my life for about 300 bucks. Well, $310 bucks if you include a pressure bandage. I kind of rate them both quite highly in my books.

PS. Snake bites are not fun. I don't recommend trying one.

Cheers


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13 November 2018 03:52 pm

Another prospector missing in the WA Goldfields, been missing for a week, his ute has been found bogged only 15km out of Coolgardie!
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/ … lderly-man

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13 November 2018 04:52 pm

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13 November 2018 07:37 pm

Hello, let's pray for him, he shall be safe and they will find him well sad

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14 November 2018 12:03 am

its the same issue over again & again sad skull
lost rescue 1.01 ..... when stuck up ship creek, stay up ship creek with your sunken ship. It's nearly always found first!!
& carry your PLB/EPIRB & water.

liliane, unfortunately after a week the chances are slim hmm

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30 November 2018 10:46 am

this woman has been found alive after trying to walk 20km back to Pannawonika in the Pilbara after their Landcruiser got bogged.
Apparently she had no WATER or UHF!
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/wes … 50j5e.html


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30 November 2018 11:04 am

Lucky girl.


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30 November 2018 11:23 am

very very lucky Jaros.
I believe when people do careless acts like this they should be hit with a substantial fine that then gets distributed to the rescue services involved to help cover the cost!
There is no excuse.
I have a brother-inlaw & a good mate in the SES in the WA Wheatbelt Areas, & some of the callouts they get are for peoples pure stupidity.

on a side note, hope you are feeling/getting much better Jaros.

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30 November 2018 11:47 am

And just recently this one who survived. "Inspector Davis said the woman was not prepared for the harsh environment but praised her for staying with her vehicle".
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-21/ … e/10514364

But in a different story 4 others in the NT didn't.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-08/ … a/10479488


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30 November 2018 12:31 pm

Too many tragic deaths - so sad - particularly kids dying out there.
But some good news rescues too.


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15 January 2019 04:05 pm

another 1. Gone hiking out of Tom Price WA, & hasnt returned
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-15/ … t/10716372
after 3 days out there hopes are getting slim, but heres hoping shes found before she dies sad

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