Minelab GPZ7000 vs SDC2300

Does anyone have a link to that thread where everyone was trying to find the smallest bit with an SDC ?

J.

Here it is This was a great thread and it should be bought back to life also start another one for the GPZ.

this was a fun thread and well worth saving.

J.

Checkout Syndyne's post on page 4 post number 85, And Wally69's post on page 5 post number 118.

https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=17205

Hi again Mr AUinAU,

as for ....."who are you to be going through posts that don't even relate to this topic." It does relate to this topic and the subject of depth with the SDC.
Often you'll see links in threads to previous topics. I've done no different here and did so to show a contradiction from you regarding the SDC's depth.

In the short time you've been detecting you've obviously had some measure of success, congrats. But don't rest on that. Honestly while the GPZ is a brilliant machine (and my favourite) don't believe it's the be all and end all of detectors. As others have stated, different tools for different jobs.

I'm not trying to start an argument and obviously I've hit a raw nerve. In post #30 you've written 'period' three times and it's dawned on me maybe you're having yours. so I apologize if I've got you on a bad day. :Y:

Lots of love
Steve
xxx

hAyyoUinAU said:

madtuna said:

Always up for a beer Doug and thankyou! :Y:

Mr AUinAU can you please explain what you mean by this?

"SDC is specialised for its portability and water proof features, thus its lack in finding anything deep."

Because that reads to me like it wont find anything deep because it's portable and waterproof? Even though the SDC was by no means designed as a deep gold large nugget detector I can assure you it will find reasonable size pieces at reasonable depth if it passes over them.

But as I said that's not what it's designed for and not what I use it for. I use my GPZ for that, and if the ground is suitable I put on the 19" coil.

You also wrote..

"I can cover a lot more ground than using the SDC."

Yep 14" vs 8" not much of a contest there.
Except when you are reef or specimen hunting in amongst the rocks and boulders or around quartz or ironstone blows. Then you realize how much more ground you can cover with that little 8" than you can with the GPZ's 14".

Often it's not a case of how much ground you cover, it's how well you cover it.

For covering ground I'll head out with the GPX and an 18" coil.

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SDC has good depth on big targets but so does a million other detectors, it is limited by coil size and power, and it will not pick up targets at depth period that ZED will scream on. PERIOD
The field from the 14" coil is great and I have not had any problems at all covering ground well..or squeezing into tight spots..under branches...etc....that doesn't make sense to me at all. SDC is for portability, and ruggedness, period, otherwise for that price, a 4500 with small coil can achieve similar outcomes tuned for small fine gold.

What I was saying is that ZED will find what the SDC finds and the 4500s and 5000s stock..., SIMPLE. If you can't believe that or think you also need a SDC to clean up what your ZED missed than something is wrong.

To me the ZED is like having a SDC and a GPX in one. And that is pretty much what it is really.

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I don't feel it's so much a matter of needing an SDC to clean up what the Z missed ..................... more a case of being able to put in my pocket the gold that the Z cannot see that the SDC can ? The only thing I can see wrong here is that you refuse to accept that the SDC can see targets that the Z can't ? Puzzled a little as this is not an opinion but a fact ? The good part for me is I figure the more others leave behind the more chance I have of finding it :Y:

Well as others have said the F3 was made to find minimum metal mines that are 99.99% plastic so it no wonder the SDC is so hot on Micro Nuggets,

Just because a Detector costs a fortune does not guarantee it will hit every target but they come awful close to it, when it comes to tiny Gold it starts with the GPX and then the Zed and then the SDC and then a VLF, It sounds crazy to even consider that their is still some Gold that Detectors can't see but it's true,

J.

Contact Minelab over the phone, they are all to willing to help or https://verify.minelab.com/index.html#/form/serial

Ridge Runner said:

hAyyoUinAU said:

SDC has good depth on big targets but so does a million other detectors, it is limited by coil size and power, and it will not pick up targets at depth period that ZED will scream on. PERIOD
The field from the 14" coil is great and I have not had any problems at all covering ground well..or squeezing into tight spots..under branches...etc....that doesn't make sense to me at all. SDC is for portability, and ruggedness, period, otherwise for that price, a 4500 with small coil can achieve similar outcomes tuned for small fine gold.

What I was saying is that ZED will find what the SDC finds and the 4500s and 5000s stock..., SIMPLE. If you can't believe that or think you also need a SDC to clean up what your ZED missed than something is wrong.

To me the ZED is like having a SDC and a GPX in one. And that is pretty much what it is really.

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In your own words you have only been Gold detecting since January, You Posted this on the 30th of July 2017, Two Months ago.

QUOTE:- AU Everyone, I am new to this forum. I have had the gold bug for over 6mths now and in that short time I have managed to achieve a little fortune. END QUOTE.

You are Arguing with people who have been in this game for decades, You got your GPZ on the 7th of August 2017, Less than 2 months ago, There is No way are you an Expert with it and know what you are talking about and you are repeating what you have read elsewhere, Trouble is some of that info is wrong, Some of the Guys here have owned their Zed's since they were released, and I would trust them over the people you are getting your Info from,

Yes the Zed can see very tiny nuggets but we have seen the SDC hit bits as small or smaller than the Possums noes on a 5c piece,

Buying the most expensive hobby detector on the market does not make that person an Expert or give them the right to dictate to talk down others who have forgotten more than most will learn.

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Well your argument is flawed. I never claimed to be an expert. And I have found ounces in my short time, compared to others who have found nothing in years and years. It is not just a detector that finds gold, it is hard work, countless hours of research, going to librarys and boots on the ground. I have invested countless of hours and time, so who are you to claim I do not know anything.
And my advice also comes from the guys who make these machines. And they do not say what you say.

Talking down to others, mate.. I have seen you constantly arguing with others, like right now, starting on me, just because of a disagreement or discussion regarding the SDC and GPZ. Are you for real??? Is that all you do, go into posts and try and rip people down?

I never claimed to be an expert, I have voiced my opinions on what I have experienced, so YOU can't argue against that. Like I said to others who thought otherwise, that if it works for them, then all good.

I think you should not be telling people what they can or can't say. It is MY OPINION, I have owned both, and loved both. If it works differently or better for other people then all to them. I am for people having fun and finding gold.

Goldfreak said:

Have read all the posts and appreciate every ones input in thread. Hayyouinau has used both machines so his opinion is relevent to me because I have owned neither. But if you want to talk gold prospecting with a spoon or making plastic sluice boxes I could add some thing.

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Thank you Goldfreak, I guess because I haven't got years under my belt I am automatically assumed to not know what I am talking about. I am being told that my experiences with both machines are incorrect.

Well I am sorry, but I am just being honest. I must be doing something right, well that is what my gold tells me.

madtuna said:

Hi again Mr AUinAU,

as for ....."who are you to be going through posts that don't even relate to this topic." It does relate to this topic and the subject of depth with the SDC.
Often you'll see links in threads to previous topics. I've done no different here and did so to show a contradiction from you regarding the SDC's depth.

In the short time you've been detecting you've obviously had some measure of success, congrats. But don't rest on that. Honestly while the GPZ is a brilliant machine (and my favourite) don't believe it's the be all and end all of detectors. As others have stated, different tools for different jobs.

I'm not trying to start an argument and obviously I've hit a raw nerve. In post #30 you've written 'period' three times and it's dawned on me maybe you're having yours. so I apologize if I've got you on a bad day. :Y:

Lots of love
Steve
xxx

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I agree with different tools for different jobs. Definitely. That is why I will always have a VLF machine as well. But I was just saying that ZED can find what the SDC finds where as the SDC will not find all that ZED finds. But that is obviously disputed.

Real world test videos of the SDC picking up a target that the GPZ can't see would be could. But I don't think I have seen one yet.

Not upset, and not trying to contradict myself. The SDC always surprised me, but it since owning both and seeing the SDC not even squint at a target ZED screamed at me was enough for me. Never happened the other way around for me.

Hahah on the Period joke too...very smart.

All good, I will stick to my GPZ and let the SDC's pick up what I missed.

Good luck with that. :Y: :Y: :Y: :Y:

We aren't supposed to take all the gold anyway right? Leave some for others. So its a win win. Everyone is happy.

Please do not take me wrong at all, I love the SDC and think it is the BEST machine for its price. Put batteries in and go. Can I put a PERIOD there. lol

Be nice to each other fellas, no arguing please. :Y:

Heyyou, even if you have found a few ounces in your short time detecting I think you should still listen to the fellas that have been doing it for over 20 years, they do know a thing or two about detecting. :Y:

I do listen to them, doesn't necessarily mean I have experienced the same things with those machines.

I haven't called anyone a liar, unlike some. I just voiced what I experienced and was quoted and attacked for having an opinion that is different to some.
I am not the only one who thinks so.

No arguing here, can we just keep it to the topic.

Maybe a video showing how the GPZ misses a target that the SDC gets would be good.

my wife has the sdc 2300 and she loves it mostly because you can turn it on point and go, so to speak. she wanted something that you dont have to play with 500 different settings.

The SDC is a mighty machine and for a first time user cannot be beat in hot ground and it will see pourus reefy gold that the Z and the GPX's cannot see and that is fact. But the Z is a far better all rounder if you are serious about this game and some of the depth claims by people with the SDC seem a little far fetched as I am yet to be blown away by its depth capabilities. To be honest if you are just doing old workings and chasing little gold get the SDC as it really smashes the shallow small stuff and actually finding the target after being dug out is about half the time of the GPZ.

Heyuou all steve was trying to say was that you may be on your period .... I thought it was pretty funny . It was just a joke

hAyyoUinAU said:

I do listen to them, doesn't necessarily mean I have experienced the same things with those machines.

I haven't called anyone a liar, unlike some. I just voiced what I experienced and was quoted and attacked for having an opinion that is different to some.
I am not the only one who thinks so.

No arguing here, can we just keep it to the topic.

Maybe a video showing how the GPZ misses a target that the SDC gets would be good.

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Hi again Mr AU,

nope, you never called anyone a liar and by no means has anyone implied that from what I can see.

BUT, you do appear to discount other peoples real life experiences and imply they are not operating their detector correctly or they have a faulty machine because their experiences differ from yours.

We all know the GPZ will find targets the SDC won't see, that's a given. But if I took the time to do a video of an un dug target that the SDC can hear but the GPZ can't, would you believe me or say my machine is faulty or question my setting or ability etc?

My GPX has found targets my GPZ and my SDC wont hear. That's a fact.
My GPZ finds targets my SDC and GPX wont hear. That's a fact also.

Another indisputable fact is my SDC has also found me targets neither my GPZ or GPX can hear. That is targets first located with the SDC then tested in situ with a GPZ and GPX prior to digging or even a boot scrape.
So these are not target that were just missed through sloppy gridding or no gridding at all.

There is a type of gold in rock over here we refer to as sandwich gold, sorry I'm not too sure of the type of rock. But we have physically rubbed this gold on the GPZ's 14" coil for barely a whisper yep it signals loud and clear on an SDC from a couple of inches.
There is no sound at all on a GPX.

It's a learning curve and an ongoing one that needs an open mind. But not one so open your brains fall out

Well I can not argue against other peoples experiences. So I will keep all this in mind in future.

Learning curve alright! lol

Well this thread is going well might go make some popcorn :lol:

aussiefarmer said:

Well this thread is going well might go make some popcorn :lol:

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I was waiting for that :lol: :lol: :lol: