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Unable to find an answer in search using the topic heading here, i am prompted to post and ask...

How do you rockhounds join back together separated specimens like you see on the telly shows?...

It has puzzled, me not being exposed to the 'processing' side of fossicking...

Regards
Gypsy
 
Clear epoxy can be an artwork in itself sometimes.
I have seen that used to repair a few trilobite specimens. I am sure there are other techniques out there though.
 
I was thinking that myself, but had concerns over time it would age and embrittle to the point of separation again... :8

You would also need to avoid acid based adhesives too i imagine...:dunno:
 
That is a very Specialist Job and only a few in the World can put a Pocket back together the way nature made it... You must be there when the Crystals are removed from the Vugh so you know how they went together... Then sit down and spend Months putting it all back together... Not a job for me im afraid... I would Throw them at the wall in Frustration.... And end up with more pieces than when I started.. :lol: :mad:

LoneWolf.....
 
Yeah, i was watching Prospectors and the young bloke had 300,000 combinations to rebuild their 'super pocket'...which was what prompted me to post. :lol:

Looked like a 'puzzle' on STEROIDS what with it being 3D and all...lmao.
 
I've been looking for beryl a bit lately, and some of the pieces were an obvious match. I didn't break them getting them out, that's just how they were. I stuck them together with 5 minute araldite, seemed to work OK.
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Yeah Heatho...more than just the red green and blue these days eh?

Hadn't considered loctite myself...fft.

Thanks for that 22Shells also...

Cheers
 
Im not a fan of.glue at all, many stores try and now sell fake amethyst vugh's which clearly have epoxy (that doesnt last( and a lick of black paint.
However for such an example as 22shells beryl, it would be great to have it stay one complete piece. I know for some of the jewellery and gems at the gemclub we have a heap of different epoxy and glue, each with a strength detail in its name like F6.. I cant remember brand though mate
 
Doesn't seem to fit from my understanding B5Mech...says to be grease free...and some rocks have a 'greasy' surface iirc?

Aside from that, again it is acidic..."Chemical Base....- Cyanoacrylate acidic ester"

Their version of Super-Glue. (yeah some are better than others, and now multi purpose 'intent' products avail.)

I simply imagined there was an 'industry approved' and commercially available product specifically for this purpose?

Seems odd that even a simple super-glue isn't being pushed to this market with a different coat on the cover (along with the usually hiked 'industry' pricing)... :/
 
Hey Gypsy, i had a bit of a look around, and there seems to be a lot of opinions on this. Bud i did find an article that went in to a bit of explanation at:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jewelry-Gems-Minerals-689/mineral-specimen-repair.htm
"Two types of clear adhesives work quite well, depending on the specimen in hand. All adhesives and fillers have advantages and drawbacks, leading to creative hand work in mineral specimen repair and restoration. Much of what is the best choice simply depends on the specimen to be repaired.

CRYSTALS and UV Cement.
A fairly new cement that is cured with ultraviolet light will work well for clear crystals. By clear, I mean the crystal must be able to pass light for the cement to cure. The most water clear of these is made by Duro and generally sold as cement for glass. The cure requires an ultraviolet light or a nice bright sunny day. The item is held in place for a minute while in the bright sun or under the lamp. Only a short time is needed for the cement to cure enough to keep things in place. After that, leave the specimen in the sun or under the lamp for another hour or so to be sure the curing is complete. (Almost any uv lamp will work, some taking longer than others to cure the UV cement.)Note that if the cemented area is deep and wide, the cement may only cure at the edges. This will be sufficient in many cases. Opaque or almost opaque items will not allow the cement to cure and another cement should be chosen.

EPOXY CEMENTS.
Epoxy is likely the most versatile cement for specimen repair. Epoxy cement works very well for clear crystals, opaque items and most other mends. Since most epoxy cements do not cure water-white, if you need water-white the epoxy to get is this one: Epoxy 330 by Hughes, available from rock shops and lapidary suppliers. The cements are two part and must be mixed. Dry fit the item first to check for fit and where the glue might run out. You want to use just enough cement to hold the item and make the specimen look fairly natural. Too much cement will leave an overly shiny line at the edge of the repair. When the cement is mixed, leave the remainder on the mixing surface(a piece of plastic works well) so you can check on hardness as the cement cures. Mild heat will speed up the cure but might damage some specimens. Epoxy 330 cures in about 2 hours without heat. The item must be supported and held in place until the cement cures and that is a reason for checking the dry fit first and working out a method to hold all together.

E6000 CRAFT CEMENT.
I mention this versatile and very useful cement simply so you will AVOID using it in mineral specimen repair. The cement is excellent in craft work an leaves a strong flexible join. The cement is simply to gobby to work cleanly with mineral specimens unless only a little is used in a cavity which will be hidden by the applied piece. This cement is for hidden repair only and not for visible areas such as repair of clean visible breaks.

OTHER SPECIMENS.
While epoxy will work well on most specimens, creative repair is needed in others. This might mean adding mineral dust or fragments to the cement surface when it becomes tacky. In some cases, cements more like mortar or polymer based materials used to repair walls, concrete, etc. will be appropriate. Other times, an epoxy type clay from the hardware store will be the choice to create a built up area. Auto repair bondo is not out of the question for repairs of specimen bases. The idea is to make the repair as difficult to spot as possible.

There is not a single, certain cement of choice for all specimens. However, I have seen very creative repairs using added dusts, fragments and coloring. A quartz crystal broken out of a plate of crystals will repair just fine with epoxy alone if the colors at the bases of other crystals are clean and white. If, for instance, the other crystals show red clay (iron stain) colors, you might have to experiment with adding color to the repair area."
 

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