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19 February 2017 06:46 pm

B5MECH wrote:
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Hi guys, hey Silver I thought I had suggested the LJ when I asked about the CAB process.

Interesting comparison there, and 'pressing' into BiCarb, VERY interesting - the search continues .......

My tumbler had a contamination issue so I have not used it for awhile, fixed now so I will try some
Dec coins in it for a clean soon.

Used CT18 for the decontamination - awesome job.

.............................WARNING NOT FOR USE WITH CHOCOLATE COINS....................................................
if staining occurs add warm milk, sugar, 1 cup of cooked rice, tumble for 20 minutes , pour into bowl, serve with fresh strawberrys lol lol ops

IF STAINING OCCURS STOP EATING CHOCOLATES ! (ha) lol


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19 February 2017 06:51 pm

B5MECH wrote:
Greenhornet_au wrote:

Hi guys, hey Silver I thought I had suggested the LJ when I asked about the CAB process.

Interesting comparison there, and 'pressing' into BiCarb, VERY interesting - the search continues .......

My tumbler had a contamination issue so I have not used it for awhile, fixed now so I will try some
Dec coins in it for a clean soon.

Used CT18 for the decontamination - awesome job.

.............................WARNING NOT FOR USE WITH CHOCOLATE COINS....................................................
if staining occurs add warm milk, sugar, 1 cup of cooked rice, tumble for 20 minutes , pour into bowl, serve with fresh strawberrys lol lol ops

thumbsup thumbsup big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile

LOL the contamination was from what looked like lead but wasnt, might have been tin/pewter.

Definitely not Chocolate, would not have made it passed my mouth - or the kids. party


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19 February 2017 09:41 pm

silver wrote:
Greenhornet_au wrote:
silver wrote:
Greenhornet_au wrote:

Hi guys, hey Silver I thought I had suggested the LJ when I asked about the CAB process.

Interesting comparison there, and 'pressing' into BiCarb, VERY interesting - the search continues .......

My tumbler had a contamination issue so I have not used it for awhile, fixed now so I will try some
Dec coins in it for a clean soon.

Used CT18 for the decontamination - awesome job.

Sorry Gh, I'll have to look that up now ,.... but Smokey did go through the process independently, and went on to discover it worked for him, appologies that my mind doesn't stretch too far Gh when it comes to bringing forward tangible memories for the moment at hand ,.... let's find the post where you suggest LJ and link to it from here, would be on my "Todays hunt results" thread ,.... first to find it and place the link on here properly will get a blackened 50% silver 6d worthy of trying in LJ to clean up, one that wouldn't respond any other way, and I'll pay the postage too ! wink
well, I bet this won't take long (I can think of a few short cuts, but I won't say) lol
I could be incorrect about it being on my thread too. yikes 8) party

Guys its all cool, and I'm not being funny about it, as what benefits one, benefits all as far as I am concerned.

The CA I use is far more concentrated (Industrial Grade) than the Coles bought stuff, so a milder form is LJ, but LJ is stronger that the store bought CA.
Other alternatives - Lime Juice, Orange Juice (acidic variety), Mandarins, Grapefruit, Tomato Juice - Citrus fruits that are acidic to your tongue, may all work with silver coins.

Silver, PM me some postal details and I will happily send you a sample of the Industrial CA to trial if you wish.
You to Smokey.

Or for that matter anyone. smile

It was in a PM Silver, me in response to your answer re CAB - 22 January 2017 09:42 am

Ohh is that all it is, Citric Acid, I have about 10kg of it, I use it for brass case tumbling in my shooting interests.
About a tea spoon into 4L of warm water with a squirt of dish liquid detergent, tumble in pins for about an hour, water rinse, and then metho rinse, air dry.

Bought 120kg bulk and passed it on at a lot less than Supermarket costs to others on another forum.

Have not used it on silver coins, but on other metals it can be brutal.

As you would know a milder form is just lemon juice.

Will read a lot more on the techniques used with it

However I just fixed an issue with my tumbler and found that an industrial cleaner may work too, I will trial some before
I post anymore on that front wink

(HA), that's why I couldn't find it in a search Gh, I new someone would find it somewhere, mate, ain't it great you could pluck that out of almost nowhere (ha), looks like I better post you a 6d as well as Dan on behalf of B5 ,..... and yes ,... all for one, and one for all ! wink tongue cool will do my PMs when I get home from the party at the beach tonight fellas. big_smile thumbsup

Sir yikes I'll have to make the golden penny for your generosity thumbsup Providing it's going to work roll
It will be a medal of honor for you yikes thumbsup

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19 February 2017 09:51 pm

Was a little late again with the rub on the 26 3d tonight.
still no aura around the 92.5% silver in LJ.
1487501144_20170219_201905.jpg
Still maybe a little improvement.
1487501333_20170219_202250.jpg


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19 February 2017 10:08 pm

I'll put them in order for a look again at the 26 3d.
start
0hrs
1487501786_20170217_191010.jpg
12hrs
1487501901_20170218_080840.jpg
1 day 3hrs
1487501950_20170218_225232.jpg
2 days 1hrs
1487502013_20170219_202250.jpg
coming along alright. big_smile


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20 February 2017 09:12 pm

Ok 3 days up for the CAB soak for the 92.5% silver 1908 3d
1487584734_20170220_193434.jpg
and the 50% silver 1946 6d
1487584631_20170220_193443.jpg
gave them a thumb rub followed by a tapwater rinse before the photo shoot
here's the 1908 3d
0hrs
1487584950_20170217_190942.jpg
3 days CAB soak
1487585038_20170220_194215.jpg
1946 6d 50% silver
0hrs
1487585203_20170217_191048.jpg
3 days CAB soak
1487585250_20170220_194250.jpg
so, they both went into their LJ soak. thumbsup
.
Even though the 1946 6d looks good already, we will still see if 12 hrs in theLJ makes any change to it. smile


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20 February 2017 09:18 pm

And the 92.5% 1926 3d
3 days in LJ.
1487585615_20170220_194344.jpg
I put it back in to soak further in a fresh batch of LJ as the level of juice had dropped through evaporation, I will only go the full 4 days max total for the 92.5%silvers, then I will save them for a further experiment later on. 8)
looking to me like a soft strike well worn. big_smile


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21 February 2017 11:38 am

Was a bit late again this morning (got busier than anticipated).
So around 10:30 am.
no halos at all to report on.
1908 92.5%
3 days of CAB 15 hrs LJ
1487636972_20170221_101805.jpg
after a thumb rub.
1487637154_20170221_102205.jpg
1946 50%
3 days CAB 15 hrs LJ
1487637040_20170221_101814.jpg
after a thumb rub.
1487637203_20170221_102233.jpg
1926 92.5%
3 days 15 hours, all in LJ.
1487637109_20170221_101822.jpg
after a thumb rub
1487637399_20170221_102312.jpg


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21 February 2017 11:45 am

Will you be 'polishing' them as well when cleaned Silver, or are you just looking to remove the crud?

Might just be the pics, but it also appears the '46 has lost some of it's sheen prior to LJ?

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21 February 2017 12:05 pm

GypsyGoldAu wrote:

Will you be 'polishing' them as well when cleaned Silver, or are you just looking to remove the crud?

Might just be the pics, but it also appears the '46 has lost some of it's sheen prior to LJ?

I'm just looking at what can happen to the crud Gypsy ,.... the 46 probably looks less sheeny as none of them were rinsed post rub this time (just took the photo as is) we may see it regain it's lustre this evening when it's all said and done around 7:30 pm when it will be rinsed and ph balanced. (as best as my method does). big_smile


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21 February 2017 12:12 pm

Well,... a bit of 'light' handling and hand oil transfer, may just buff it up some, and isolate the 'atmosphere' a little, before 'storing' big_smile


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21 February 2017 12:31 pm

I had one of the 92.5 in the LJ for 3 Days Silver...And it came out black like that one ...2mins in the electrolesses...Then a quick rub with bicarb...And it looks as new as the day it was made thumbsup


No pain No gain..

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21 February 2017 01:13 pm

I might see if I can find the chemical solution (pun intended) Smokey ,.... over time that is. wink


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21 February 2017 08:33 pm

About to run short on internet, I'll take the photo's but may not be able to post them up until tommorow. big_smile
cheers without beers
Silver.


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21 February 2017 09:03 pm

Here's the before, during, and after for the last three coins
1908 3d
before
1487671179_20170217_190942.jpg
during (after the CAB)
1487671315_20170220_194215.jpg
after the LJ and final ph rinse
1487671368_20170221_194701.jpg


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21 February 2017 09:09 pm

1946
Before
1487671559_20170217_191048.jpg
during ( after the CAB)
1487671694_20170220_194250.jpg
after the LJ(and final ph rinse)
1487671739_20170221_194739.jpg

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21 February 2017 09:14 pm

1926 3d
before
1487671857_20170217_191010.jpg
During (after around 3days in LJ)
Just in keeping with time for the previous 2 coins.
1487671991_20170220_194344.jpg
after 4 days total in LJ(and the ph rinse)
1487672035_20170221_194815.jpg

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21 February 2017 09:19 pm

And I'll throw the before and after of the 1957 6d here too (again).
before
1487672328_1487371929_20170217_191033.jpg
after just 12 hrs in LJ
1487672353_1487371990_20170218_081249.jpg

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21 February 2017 09:21 pm

The 50's came up nice but the 925 look like there struggling yikes sort of getting there have you tried finger rubbing them?


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21 February 2017 10:10 pm

GypsyGoldAu wrote:

Well,... a bit of 'light' handling and hand oil transfer, may just buff it up some, and isolate the 'atmosphere' a little, before 'storing' big_smile

Might have to pass em around the crew. wink


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21 February 2017 10:23 pm

B5MECH wrote:

The 50's came up nice but the 925 look like there struggling yikes sort of getting there have you tried finger rubbing them?

Yep, gave em a good thumb rubbing at their photo shoots each time, so the 1926 got a lot more than the 1908, but the idea there was to see the difference between the three day soak in CAB first before 12-24 hrs in LJ ,... as opposed to LJ all the way through with regular thumb rubbing.
I recon the 1908 would still have needed an additional 3 days worth of LJ and thumb rubbing to end up like the 1926 myself ,.... I see the 50%ers responded well both ways, and the one in CAB would have responded favourably even if it had been removed earlier, just by seeing the halo (liquid colour change) develop. big_smile


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21 February 2017 10:27 pm

8) But, we all know that the real gem on this thread is still Eldorado's beautiful florin
1487676398_1487206253_image.jpg
still a top job mate ! thumbsup big_smile party


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21 February 2017 10:33 pm

silver wrote:
GypsyGoldAu wrote:

Well,... a bit of 'light' handling and hand oil transfer, may just buff it up some, and isolate the 'atmosphere' a little, before 'storing' big_smile

Might have to pass em around the crew. wink

You can't give too many away silver yikes how will we make bullets when the vampire apocalypse comes yikes and there's no garlic left in the stores and holy water in the churches lol lol lol lol lol


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21 February 2017 10:35 pm

B5MECH wrote:
silver wrote:
GypsyGoldAu wrote:

Well,... a bit of 'light' handling and hand oil transfer, may just buff it up some, and isolate the 'atmosphere' a little, before 'storing' big_smile

Might have to pass em around the crew. wink

You can't give too many away silver yikes how will we make bullets when the vampire apocalypse comes yikes and there's no garlic left in the stores and holy water in the churches lol lol lol lol lol

Well, I'll just pass em around my crew in the loungeroom then devil


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22 February 2017 10:22 am

silver wrote:
B5MECH wrote:

The 50's came up nice but the 925 look like there struggling yikes sort of getting there have you tried finger rubbing them?

Yep, gave em a good thumb rubbing at their photo shoots each time, so the 1926 got a lot more than the 1908, but the idea there was to see the difference between the three day soak in CAB first before 12-24 hrs in LJ ,... as opposed to LJ all the way through with regular thumb rubbing.
I recon the 1908 would still have needed an additional 3 days worth of LJ and thumb rubbing to end up like the 1926 myself ,.... I see the 50%ers responded well both ways, and the one in CAB would have responded favourably even if it had been removed earlier, just by seeing the halo (liquid colour change) develop. big_smile

I wonder if anyone has tried warming the solution to accelerate the action of the acids being used ?

You guys do a great job on cleaning the coins with care, so far I have clean a few low value but no silver yet,
maybe I think I will be too brutal on them at this point.
Need to learn more and have some damaged ones to trial I think. (did they have lawn mowers in 1930's-40's?)


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