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#51

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21 February 2017 09:20 am

Maybe it is still in the bigger D size..


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21 February 2017 03:22 pm

The victim that will be sacrificed first lol lol lol Nice one AR I like his style lol lol I don't have copper sulfate but was thinking I have a little of copper nitrate would that give the same effect? Ahhhh the inner shell is zinc the outer is alloy 8)
I wonder if the manganese dioxide could be used in a controlled way to add a patina yikes might be a little corrosive but somehow watered down yikes


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21 February 2017 05:53 pm

I have used it on some coin rings I made. I'll try dig up a pic.


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#54

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21 February 2017 06:38 pm

Im actually going to call my Camelean battery AA a zinc case. Cutting.up a few thin slithers of it and burning.turns it into ash after a blue white flame puff


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21 February 2017 06:41 pm

I dont have zinc sulphate at hand right now but using a bit of the battery case id attempt galvanizing a nail first then some electroplating onto a 2c


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#56

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23 February 2017 04:07 pm

Need to work on the process a little but first test results lol lol lol thumbsup silver BB's yikes thumbsup I'll throw them back in tomorrow to fully coat them and try the brown ones, think because they were sitting flat had to pull them out and do the other side roll
It was a little slower than the link of ten minutes but his zinc sulfate maybe a better grade so will overdose it next run cool Results 8)
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I think the trick was to allow an air gap under the coin so the zinc will plate it fully
Yeah winning lol lol lol lol thumbsup when the coat is solid I'll heat alloy them to gold, decided to use a stainless offcut which I'll heat underside with a map gas torch as it has to get to 300 degree rainbow party cool

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23 February 2017 04:29 pm

Looks like its given it a decent coating first shot mate nice job!


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#58

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23 February 2017 04:38 pm

I think I'll mix a larger amount of liquid so I can add more as it boils down, the adding more water and throwing more sulfate powder might have slowed it a bit roll lol lol It was easier that I thought, no headless panicking chicken running around this time lol lol thumbsup
I think 15 to 20 minutes would be a better time to aim at wink
It looks like the coating might fill the pits nicely too cool

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24 February 2017 05:29 pm

Golden BB's yikes lol lol tongue the browner BB's are having issues roll
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25 February 2017 05:07 pm

The browner ones have 'oxidised' and been coated with hand oils etc over decades before you finding them. Try Armorall 'CLEANER' to remove surface reside, this will improve the conductivity, and transference of salts. Just be sure to rinse it with water afterwards and before entering your solution.

I use Armorall Cleaner to strip hydraulic fluid out of the porous coatings on hydraulic rams, so should work on this. wink

It's also on the shelf at your friendly Woolworths stores for about $10-12(here in GT at least) and for those you will have enough for years to come.

That's the 'sweat-free' option, or...you could just 'activate' the surface with a scotch-brite pad to a 'pinkish' finish for best results, but use a few more muscles. big_smile

Both options are 'scratch' safe and one uses chemicals...but you 'are' dipping them, so shouldn't be an impediment to use.

thumbsup

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28 February 2017 10:37 am

How are those coins turning out B5?... 8)


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28 February 2017 04:07 pm

I've been trying to perfect the zinc coat and it's all about the set up, think I'm still trying to do too many coins at once roll lol lol
Was using citric, lime juice and salt to clean them quick and wiping with metho before plating, the BB's look thick now but I think George sneezed last plating run lol lol lol I'll give the penny one more run then onto a couple of PD's cool
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28 February 2017 05:35 pm

The mark near Georges nose likely won't plate, (also a mark near his neck not plating properly?)...it's a sign of contamination on the surface...metho leaves a residue and it looks like the shape of a droplet....might not be the case, but certainly a possibility. Better to use 'white solvent' or GP Thinners imo...

One thought also comes to mind, was George facing towards or away from the cathode?(zinc)

Do you have adjustable power source?

Gypsy

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28 February 2017 05:54 pm

There going through the zinc sulfate boiling way and It was where the strips were touching it, It should come up good next run wink
I try the electro plating later down the track when AR sets it up, definitely agree thinners would be better thumbsup
Still not sure which side plates better I think the too many coins at once confuse the situation
I'm trying to build it up a bit to try and fill the pits so another run will hope fully cover it all nicely thumbsup


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28 February 2017 06:19 pm

For dbl sided items to be coated, and you have a drop anode against the outside edge, you need to move the items around from time to time (variable based on heat, volume, current, etc) so each side is exposed to the cathode as much as the other...(if your not already doing it that is... ops )

TIP;

Also, where the 'pits' are you wish to build up, remove coin from the solution, and 'isolate' the rest of the surrounding surface with an acrylic paint, or borrow the wife's nail polish. Leave only a slight outer edge and at worst this can be polished back for an even surface.

Quantity is a relative issue on it's own...tank platers can drop 25-50-100 hinges for example....again as above, current, volume, temp. etc...but certainly doable.

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28 February 2017 06:27 pm

GypsyGoldAu wrote:

For dbl sided items to be coated, and you have a drop anode against the outside edge, you need to move the items around from time to time (variable based on heat, volume, current, etc) so each side is exposed to the cathode as much as the other...(if your not already doing it that is... ops )

Quantity is a relative issue on it's own...tank platers can drop 25-50-100 hinges for example....again as above, current, volume, temp. etc...but certainly doable.

The first ones I did were pulled and turned regularly is probably they were quicker, those were dropped in and left on one side for longer thumbsup


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28 February 2017 06:30 pm

Check the 'tip' i added in the post above... thumbsup


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02 March 2017 03:59 pm

Sooo many little tricks GGA, Got it coated good this time and threw the 51 in after for a little and it looked like it cleaned it up better cool
yikes yikes yikes yikes THE GOLDEN PENNY yikes yikes yikes yikes thumbsup looks like the final heat alloying temp varies the colour of the gold, may alloy it once more to make it more golden cool thumbsup
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Looking great B5...i see a cpl places it still hasn't taken, but at a quick glance their coming along nicely for a virgin's work thumbsup tongue lol

Good news for me, been given an opportunity to show my work to a large local antique concern.

Got a small project to do for them which if successful, could lead to a lucrative partnership... big_smile

Know more next week... thumbsup 8)

BTW...did you try and isolate the pits?

Cheers

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02 March 2017 06:27 pm

This is one i did earlier... yikes devil

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02 March 2017 09:04 pm

Thanks GGA, ops got some issues to sort but learning as it goes, I didn't try to isolate anything yet but think it would have been better if I polished it down each time and replated, that crown is 8) 8) yikes yikes cool cool WOW
think I've got to learn the electro side next, that looks like a mint produced one cool that would fool anyone in believing it's gold lol lol
Sounds like the electro is a lot less work than the boil method, love it too cool cool
With work like that the Antique guy would be a great source of constant work, sure he'll jump on it cool
So with the electro plate what's the coating, does it start with the zinc or just straight brass or is that really gold plate yikes
Did you do Nightjar's roo, loved it when I saw it cool
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02 March 2017 09:24 pm

B5MECH wrote:

Thanks GGA, ops got some issues to sort but learning as it goes, I didn't try to isolate anything yet but think it would have been better if I polished it down each time and replated,

Your finish will only be as good as the base, so yup, you'd be right in that assumption...having adjustable power also helps. thumbsup

that crown is 8) 8) yikes yikes cool cool WOW,... think I've got to learn the electro side next, that looks like a mint produced one cool that would fool anyone in believing it's gold lol lol

Yeah i reckon it came out alright...it was only 'cleaned' and plated...no polishing at all. It is actually a Chinese copy of a 38....and the ONLY reason he did it...it is for a coin dealer who wanted some 'oddities' on his bench to hold peoples attention. I also did a Gold plated Babbit ingot and Copper plated a 1966 round SILVER 50c piece yikes

Sounds like the electro is a lot less work than the boil method, love it too cool cool
With work like that the Antique guy would be a great source of constant work, sure he'll jump on it cool

Let's hope so....it's a large and popular concern,...so i want to offer him quality he can be proud of. wink

So with the electro plate what's the coating, does it start with the zinc or just straight brass or is that really gold platecool
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Yup...$5,000.00 a litre 24K GOLD solution...

No, i am not Digger who did the work, but looks a good job eh?.

Cheers

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02 March 2017 11:59 pm

WHAT yikes yikes 5,000.00 a litre yikes yikes WOW yikes yikes I'm out ops lol lol lol
Loved the roo I've got to find me one of them lol lol lol It will be lost somewhere roll
The shine on the coin looks like the mint did it, would be a nice collector cool thumbsup
What's the other plates you can do silver? could be handy in the antique world


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#74

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03 March 2017 08:17 am

It's possible to do most metals....Silver?, yeah, at about $28-3200 a litre....

Currently i only carry on hand solutions for the work i get as they have a shelf life unfortunately...and as a startup i have limited funds. Starting from scratch to get off benefits takes some doing i can tell you.

The mainstay of the business is industrial in purpose, so the likes of Nickel, Copper, Cobalt etc...as inquiries expand, so will the stock on hand, which has to be kept to minimum in a 'mobile' operation anyway due to availability of space.

Cheers

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