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#26

GypsyGoldAu
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17 February 2017 09:45 pm

B5MECH wrote:

There has to be something that has pure zinc in it

big_smile lol devil

www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1MDNA_enAU593AU593&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=zinc+ingots+suppliers+australia

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17 February 2017 09:46 pm

Here you go.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/manutec-500 … r_p2961527


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17 February 2017 09:51 pm

big_smile big_smile big_smile Whoops, we in a time loop now... lol

Sorry Silver, we been there post #23... tongue

But hey, shows folks wanna help right? wink

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#29

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17 February 2017 09:53 pm

Maybe the galvanizers but it think there solid ingots, could always cut small bits off and hammer them flat I guess thumbsup
I keep going in circles too and back to this
https://www.sciencecompany.com/Zinc-Met … 0C670.aspx
There US though sad thumbsdown

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#30

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17 February 2017 09:57 pm

B5...your profile says your in Sydney,...mate, plenty of e/platers there???

Even my supplier is in Sydney, but we use solutions not solids....

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#31

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17 February 2017 10:01 pm

B5 - non rechargable bateries for pure zinc. Like crappy AA size. The metal shell is zinc


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#32

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17 February 2017 10:03 pm

GypsyGoldAu wrote:

B5...your profile says your in Sydney,...mate, plenty of e/platers there???

Even my supplier is in Sydney, but we use solutions not solids....

GGA

Not up my end, I'm in the isolated area yikes so need my license back to go west lol lol or south


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#33

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17 February 2017 10:08 pm

AtomRat wrote:

B5 - non rechargable bateries for pure zinc. Like crappy AA size. The metal shell is zinc

AHhhh finally a use for dead batteries, so peel the shell off wink thumbsup
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Sweet I've already got a stack built up ready for the GOLDEN PENNY smile Knew I was saving them for some reason roll lol lol


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#34

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17 February 2017 10:09 pm

I don't imagine a 50-100g sample from a Sydney e/plater would cost much in the post though...

If not, they might at least be able to tell you where to get some...

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#35

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17 February 2017 10:11 pm

Just make sure they say zinc-carbon. Should be a nice carbon rod to use as electrode in other projects too. The black crap will be manganese dioxide soaked in an electrolyte, just wear gloves and put it in a bin.


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#36

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17 February 2017 10:26 pm

Thanks guys thumbsup I was looking for a carbon rod a while ago AR, to do a special Distributor cap repair thumbsup that's the goods
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I'll have to check the package on the Duracell's but them ones thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
I'll try to set it up over the weekend and do a post on it in the members only section big_smile thumbsup


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#37

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17 February 2017 11:15 pm

Just for the hell of it I ripped open a super heavy duty AA batt. Set of pliers, no probs! There was a different small amount of black goop on the top of mine, not exactly sure what it was, but all it contained was the carbon rod, manganese dioxide and end caps. To test if the case is zinc, (not aluminium) you can either put a drop of copper sulfate solution onto it and see if it turns white, or if you scrape up a thin slither of it with a sharp tool it will burn into a smoke where alloy will get hot and stay. Cant find my copper sulfate so will do that in morn. Burn test is a bit difficult to determine

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#38

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17 February 2017 11:26 pm

Anyone thinking we should lobby for sticky on Hints-Tips&Tricks with categories for things like cleaners, displaying, repairs etc?

This could also be an area for other categories (cabbing & faceting etc) as well...

Seems many threads offer good advice, be nice to have them in an easy to find format...

Thoughts?

ops ..apologies if this has been covered previously.

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17 February 2017 11:33 pm

Should be a special section in the members only area, I agree with B5 ,.... this and other threads of secret and mystical information should have their special place thumbsup on the other side of the rainbow where the real party is. tongue


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#40

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17 February 2017 11:39 pm

Maybe blend it with the 'projects' thread perhaps as a 'sub-forum'???

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#41

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17 February 2017 11:52 pm

This thread can be moved if need be thumbsup


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#42

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18 February 2017 07:14 pm

First part big_smile Zinc sulfate, first bummings didn't have so had to go further roll
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Not certain about the duracell for zinc so will have to wear the pinpointer out tonight for the chevron 9v thumbsup


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#43

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18 February 2017 08:47 pm

AtomRat wrote:

Just for the hell of it I ripped open a super heavy duty AA batt. Set of pliers, no probs! There was a different small amount of black goop on the top of mine, not exactly sure what it was, but all it contained was the carbon rod, manganese dioxide and end caps. To test if the case is zinc, (not aluminium) you can either put a drop of copper sulfate solution onto it and see if it turns white, or if you scrape up a thin slither of it with a sharp tool it will burn into a smoke where alloy will get hot and stay. Cant find my copper sulfate so will do that in morn. Burn test is a bit difficult to determine

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ … e=594A081E

The burn test confirms the Duracell are alloy cased AR, so will pull a chevron apart tomorrow wink
We got a sticky but didn't make it to the private rainbow party area roll lol lol lol
Almost forgot gota pick a couple of experiment penny's and clean and polish them up cool

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#44

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19 February 2017 08:34 pm

The coins are being difficult roll not sure if the citric is too much, the Worcestershire roll is wearing them too much roll
Might have to make a mini soda blaster hmm they need to be spotless roll
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Left is close but not close enough, maybe need to choose better coins that will clean easier 8)


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#45

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20 February 2017 05:33 pm

Just removed the off track comments in this post.
Now, Stay on track please people. big_smile


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#46

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20 February 2017 10:28 pm

Thanks Tathradj wink Today's progress report FAIL mad roll lol lol Tried too hard to make myself believe the chevron shell was zinc through multiple SG tests til I made it give me the SG of zinc roll hmm idiot lol thumbsdown should have believed the burn test, I know what zinc burns like, Bang head thumbsdown
I new it was alloy by the way it peeled off but at least found out how much heat I needed roll lol
Budget so far is $17 between the zinc sulfate and 99% zinc plate roll link for zinc below. Decided to bite the bullet and blow the 2 bob budget.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/292014026553 … EBIDX%3AIT
I used to have some zinc flashing but got recycled a while ago hmm but sure it would suffice if you have some around, also some newer wheel weights are made from zinc but not sure how pure they are.
I believe everyone is unsure about what's going on here because of the title so this is the first experiment, click below.
https://www.sciencecompany.com/Turn-Cop … nnies.aspx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_ml8tAnWE
For those unsure this thread is about creating patina, preserving, and special coatings and tricks for copper coins and relics big_smile thumbsup not cleaning wink
For those interested stay tuned wink I'm trying to do it first without having to deal with Lab suppliers so anybody that feels confident can achieve it cool
I'm using a coffee peculator beaker, you can get cheap at either a vinnies or your local tip recycling center like the one at Nelson Bay, yes the one that says not for stove top lol lol as long as your careful you should not have a problem.
I sit it inside an old not for food ever again cast alloy pot as a heat sink to avoid it splitting, and if it did the liquid will be retained in the pot and not spill everywhere.
The first run will be done with a few BB's of varying cleanliness so I don't ruin a penny with a FAIL lol lol so I can make sure I know how clean it has to be thumbsup Hoping not to have to clean them as far as the penny on the left in the above post
Please keep the thread clean so it's easy to follow, if you start on page one has a variety of different tricks to try and Atom Rat is going to have a go at a few along the lines of patina, this coating is a chemical plating process which starts as a zinc coating which can be left looking silver or heating alloys the zinc with copper to create a brass coating cool It' will be called THE SILVER OR GOLDEN PENNY'S lol lol lol lol
Stay tuned while I wait for the postie to show, maybe the end of the week, if you follow you may not make the mistakes I have already lol lol thumbsup
This is not a super toxic process but please don't drink contents or deliberately inhale for fun lol lol lol thumbsup

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#47

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20 February 2017 11:08 pm

ops ...sorry about this coming suggestion B5MECH since you've now 'bit the bullet'...
Perhaps for your next time, you might try the metal scrappo's...scrap is not worth anything these days, cents on the dollar, except for recoverable's and copper.... :dunno:

Might be worth a try next time eh? (again,...sorry)

GGA

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#48

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20 February 2017 11:25 pm

When I found the only AU listing for $6.99 and lab 99.9 grade I couldn't beat it, the fuel to get to Brookvale would have costed more and not sure how clean the scrap would be or if they had any as they cash in daily, I figured with Lab grade I'll be cutting cost by not making another mistake by being a tight a... lol lol lol
Every time I have to set it up is a waste if it goes wrong roll thumbsup
Oh I went for the free post option so I can sit back and get the set up right before next attempt wink
I was a good dry learning run, I tried for bunnings but they don't sell zinc flashing anymore and the place I found the price was out of control
$160 a roll new yikes thumbsdown


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#49

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21 February 2017 08:36 am

B5 - my comments suggested to use a solution of copper sulfate on the probable zinc. It will turn white if its zinc not alloy or did u try this? Copper Sulfate. My chamelian was alloy case too. I certainly know the older D size batts like blackcats were zinc. Must be a newer brand thats using zinc still

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#50

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21 February 2017 08:44 am

1982 pennys from america are zinc, order a bag? Sorry for delays - head been elsewhere

whats happened to your two pennys in photo B5 is the same result as ehat i was getting sometimes while cleaning. The coins look soo ugly and why i had the idea to re petina

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