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davent
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03 December 2016 05:10 pm

Well. There has been a post that States the QED will be distributed by gold search Australia from December 7, and it will come fully assembled with a 12" NF evo as standard, price less than a 19" Z coil. I'm gonna get one as a 2nd detector if it actually happens.
Anyone know anymore about it?

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03 December 2016 05:13 pm

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03 December 2016 06:30 pm

Interesting that it's finally going to be available, very keen to hear of peoples thoughts and see some reviews when it's out.

Also it's bound to cause a bit of internet biffo. big_smile After seeing what sort of arguments a new coil can cause, a whole new detector will be WW3......

Anyway, jokes aside I'm really interested to see how it goes.


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03 December 2016 06:39 pm

How'd ya get a photo of it? That's up there with Bunyip photo's lol
Read a post & the bloke reckons he's got one on order with Goldsearch Australia already? Might be something to it this time although I've lost count of how many times it was close to or getting ready for release - goes back to 2008 I think?
I'll believe it when it's on the shelf at GSA on the 7th. Might get one to if they materialise & reports are good. Wouldn't get one until some reports come in - this things been the biggest hyped up thing in history. Might wait another 8 years for QED II tongue


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03 December 2016 06:39 pm

Bugger it, I'm gonna get one and make up my own mind, if its a world beater, I'll keep it myself and hope no one buys any, if its a did, well I pay a lot for a 12" evo. I reckon its great that the little player is having a go. I make lures out of timber, hand made, cost me 10 times as much to make one compared to the big companies who mass produce millions of plastic ones a year. And to top it off, truth be known, no 2 I make are ever identical. Anyway, hope he actually gets them in stores asap, I want one no matter what.

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03 December 2016 06:41 pm

mbasko wrote:

How'd ya get a photo of it? That's up there with Bunyip photo's lol
Read a post & the bloke reckons he's got one on order with Goldsearch Australia already? Might be something to it this time although I've lost count of how many times it was close to or getting ready for release - goes back to 2008 I think?
I'll believe it when it's on the shelf at GSA on the 7th. Might get one to if they materialise & reports are good. Wouldn't get one until some reports come in - this things been the biggest hyped up thing in history. Might wait another 8 years for QED II tongue

I've been testing a prototype. Its better than my....just kidding, pic is from another forum.

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05 December 2016 11:51 am

Interesting to see those involved with it aren't really talking it up against Minelab machines too much. They are saying that field testing has shown that the QED will outperform the Whites TDI for depth & sensitivity on gold + will be cheaper than the cheapest TDI variant (TDI SL I assume not the SPP?). I read one older comment that it would rival the GPX but "rival" can be a long way removed from matching it? Most people that are saying it will be as good or better than the GPX aren't involved in it but merely onlookers, like us, that seem to be more hoping than knowing.
In any case it looks to be an interesting detector at the pricing being hinted at! Even if it is somewhere between the TDI & GPX it will be good value. I won't be getting one unless it can positively be shown to surpass what's available now - no use otherwise.
After seeing many many false starts, promises of "soon to be released" & nothing concrete I had put it down to a white elephant. Looks like Wednesday there may be a few eating humble pie lol maybe......


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05 December 2016 12:04 pm

I remember grabbing a copy of the circuit when this was first in development. Its a pretty straight forward design thats better than a few commercial machines I have seen. At that stage it was using pic chips for timings, gate controls and control display/keypad.

I used the timings in a unit I was working on and the ground balance etc wasnt too bad. I dare say its been tweaked in the last year or so and if it has retained the basic original circuit, would be an ok machine. It wont be as good as a GPX or SDC but it should do ok mineralised ground where some of the other machines have issues.


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06 December 2016 09:37 pm

Apparently it is now different to when it was first developed although those early video tests at that in-ground test showed it certainly had potential back then.

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10 December 2016 12:47 pm

It's now on Goldsearch Australia site:
http://www.goldsearchaustralia.com/our- … ctors.html


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10 December 2016 03:02 pm

SteelPat wrote:

I remember grabbing a copy of the circuit when this was first in development. Its a pretty straight forward design thats better than a few commercial machines I have seen. At that stage it was using pic chips for timings, gate controls and control display/keypad.

I used the timings in a unit I was working on and the ground balance etc wasnt too bad. I dare say its been tweaked in the last year or so and if it has retained the basic original circuit, would be an ok machine. It wont be as good as a GPX or SDC but it should do ok mineralised ground where some of the other machines have issues.

Won't be as good as a gpx? Which one? 4000,4500,5000? None? Might be as good for me up here. For example, I have to run my 4500 in enhance, and some days my gain has to be down as low as 5 and stab 7. If the QED allows me to crank the gain and use evo coils, I reckon in my area, it could very well be as good or better than a gpx.

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10 December 2016 03:03 pm

I'll let you know after I get one, if I'm wrong, I'll say so.

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10 December 2016 03:47 pm

Your a pioneer Dave. big_smile
I'm not willing to put up $1800 of mine to find out so I'll have to take your word on it.


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10 December 2016 04:14 pm

Lol! Pioneer....no, gambler.....yep!

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10 December 2016 04:15 pm

Also, I see it as $1200 anyway, 12" evo it comes with is a handy thing for the 4500 if its a did.

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10 December 2016 04:51 pm

I'm keen to hear how it goes davent I hope it pays for you.

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mbasko
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10 December 2016 05:02 pm

davent wrote:

Also, I see it as $1200 anyway, 12" evo it comes with is a handy thing for the 4500 if its a did.

$1200 is for the control box only?
Good luck - I'm sure there'll be plenty keen to hear your thoughts on it.

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10 December 2016 05:27 pm

Looks like it will be a while now.....bloke was going to buy 1 of my rifles pulled out. Need to sell it 1st. No rush , to bloody hot now any way. But I'll order one when I can.

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11 December 2016 10:01 am

davent wrote:

Lol! Pioneer....no, gambler.....yep!

lol well I wasn't going to say it!
Have they released any more technical info yet or a manual? Sounds like there's going to be a "knack" to it with having to correctly adjust the earth field cancellation, ground balance & volume together correctly to get good sensitivity. Might prove overly complicated for some?
Interesting how people are getting into it & talking it up without having ever used it. Some are saying how good it is not to have the usual "pro" supporters behind it but I can't find any independent or individual opinion on it's performance/use anywhere. It's all on the "pro" QED site & from those involved with it directly or their supporters. More one eyed info than Minelab or any other brand as far as I can tell. The "air tests" using smaller than 1 gram gold & then aluminium test pieces haven't convinced me neutral
They need to get one in the hands of a trusted reviewer or 3 - how busy are you Nenad? big_smile

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11 December 2016 10:56 am

I will be watching this with great interest as you have seen.
I have just about every thing for this, Coils, Shafts.
Only thing I will need is an arm rest and a handle.
Quick run in the Man Cave will soon sort that out. smile


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11 December 2016 11:14 am

Yes, I'm aware of the claims made, and from what I've read, getting used to the GB/ bias might be an initial hurdle.
But let's say its performance in hot ground is as good as a 4500. Then it will be an absolute winner, just on swinging all day , there is a question about the battery pack somewhere. I'm sure at the price its selling for, it won't seem its possible to.be as good as ML machines, but I'm gonna give one a go anyway.
Come in spinner!

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11 December 2016 10:02 pm

Spoke to the "developer" today, Malcolm from memory, unit looks simple enough, was demonstrated at the Talbot "test" site.
Currently being hand built (think he said he can do 4 a day.
It seemed to match the 4500 for depth in many aspects in a test environment, Malcolm did say (and I wasn't really paying too much attention) that there is a "blind" spot (something along the lines it will pick up 0.01gms to 4.5 gms and 5gms plus but will (may) miss 4.6 to 4.9gm targets ..... that's with his test pieces.
The blokes up for a chat and I'm sure you could discuss the unit personally with him if interested.
My initial impression was that it's a better proposition than something in the Xterra 705 range.
If you already have a coil, can buy it without one.
For anyone interested suggest you drop Corey M. a note and get Malcolms contact details.
Very interesting, think he also mentioned something about a US patent ???
May be an alternative for those that don't want to part with what Minelab charges.
Cheers Tom.


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11 December 2016 10:18 pm

Have spoken to Corey M. ...... I got the name wrong it's Howard not Malcolm.
Corey M. will get in touch with him tomorrow (Mon.) to see how best to contact him.
Will advise when I find out.
Cheers T.


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11 December 2016 10:54 pm

OK, so at this time of year, Howard is asking that his privacy not be intruded upon, fair enough, Christmas is hectic enough without us detectorists hassling for more info.
Don't think wider availability will occur till early next year, more to ensure a consistent build rate/quality.
Anyway, love the fact that someone's having a go, we all know that most of the costs we incur in buying Minelab are to cover their "intellectual property", and rightly so I suppose, rate her than the actual cost of components. (I own 3 ML units, so not knocking them).
Cheers T.


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12 December 2016 07:25 am

Unfortunately Howard chose this time of year to release it - not the punters! I don't think the questions will slow down until some sort of manual or other technical explanation on operation is available. Then there could be even more questions though?
By my reckoning being about a week since it was announced there should be at least 20 or so units ready for sale by now if he started making them then? You would think that would have begun prior though? Where the bloody hell are they lol We need independent opinions on it!!


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