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Nugget
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06 September 2016 08:17 pm

As many of you are aware, I very recently gave up on gold prospecting (for good) mainly due to logistics and lack of finds, so I've just purchased myself a new Garrett ACE 400i to hit the local parks with the young fella.

With any luck I should have it here buy the end of the week, and when it turns up I will get straight into doing some air and field tests which I'll share the results with you guys smile

Anyway, I'm looking forward to catching up with some of the coin and relic guys in the near future.

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06 September 2016 08:40 pm

You should join us on a hunt sometime soon.


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Wally69
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06 September 2016 08:51 pm

Welcome to the dark side Nugget cool

They are great for finding burried arrows too lol

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06 September 2016 09:06 pm

Shame you had to give up the gold hunt. Hopefully you can get back to it sometime in the future.
Be interesting to see how the 400 goes. You will clean up with it. Agree with Rocket, we'll have to catch up for a swing. I haven't been in your neck of the woods in a for months.


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06 September 2016 09:09 pm

Hey Nugget, awesome! Looking forward to seeing your finds and also looking forward to see what you think of the 400i. I'll come up to Newy again if there's another group detect on, last one was a great day out, had a ball meeting the fellas.


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06 September 2016 09:25 pm

Looking forward to your findings on the Ace 400i, seems to have a much improved recovery speed over the outgoing EuroAce & 250. smile


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Nugget
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06 September 2016 09:42 pm

Thanks guys, I'm looking forward to getting back into the coin and relic side of things, at least I know I won't come home empty handed every outing lol. And the beauty of the 400 is I've swung a couple Garrett detectors in the past (AT Gold and ACE 250) so it should only be a matter of assemble and go.

I'm definitely interested in organising or attending a local catch up sometime, so I'll let you guys know when it arrives smile

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14 September 2016 06:40 pm

The 400i arrived on Friday. I've taken it out for a couple of quick test runs and here are my thoughts so far.

First of all the 400i is a very responsive machine, I reckon with an 8x5" DD it would match that of my old AT Gold in terms of recovery speed. It loves a very fast sweep speed, I discovered that some deep or smaller targets would disappear if you swung too slow, so swinging fast is the key to success with this machine (at least with the stock coil).

Target separation is also very good thanks to the DD coil, although in really high trash areas like the ground I've test so far, an 8x5" coil would be my preferred option and I plan on getting one very soon.

Pinpointing is a piece of cake and extremely accurate. The controls are about as simple to use as they come. Weight, you hardly even know you've got a detector attached to your arm lol.

All and all I'm quite happy with the purchase and I'm sure it'll pay for itself in no time.

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14 September 2016 06:59 pm

Onya Nugget, geez if that bracelet was gold it would have already paid for itself.

Is that bracelet gold?? big_smile

Looking forward to seeing how it performs for you over the next few months.

I admit too, I have trouble getting away gold detecting, the logistics are very difficult. If I lived in the goldfields I'd be out there everyday, makes it hard living so far from any decent gold areas. sad


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Ramjet
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14 September 2016 07:00 pm

Nice work Nugget. I don't suppose the At Pro coils will fit on the 400? I have an 8x5 you could test if they did fit.


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14 September 2016 07:08 pm

Thanks for the review Nugget. How deep was the $1-00 coin?


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14 September 2016 07:47 pm

the goldies will add up quickly, trick is avoiding the aluminium caps that sound the same.


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Nugget
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14 September 2016 07:48 pm

Heatho wrote:

Onya Nugget, geez if that bracelet was gold it would have already paid for itself.

Is that bracelet gold?? big_smile

When I pulled it out of the ground I almost peed a little, but unfortunately she's not gold lol

Ramjet wrote:

Nice work Nugget. I don't suppose the At Pro coils will fit on the 400? I have an 8x5 you could test if they did fit.

I don't believe they're interchangeable mate but I appreciate the offer. I absolutely loved that coil on the AT Gold, I could weave my way around the most trashy places while others just gave up.

Jaros wrote:

Thanks for the review Nugget. How deep was the $1-00 coin?

There's two in the photo and I think they were only like 4 or so inches under. In my air test a $1 coin picked up at just over 10 inches, but obviously that number is no indication of real world potential. Once I've finished the air tests, I'll post the results for air to air comparison.

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Nugget
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15 September 2016 07:57 pm

The 400i is proving to be quite a machine, uncovering a sterling silver ring spill in this afternoons 45 minute hunt with the young fella. These 3 beauties put up a 91-93 on the display and were all found within a 1mtr radius of each other at between 4-6 inches deep smile

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Ramjet
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15 September 2016 08:00 pm

Ka ching kaching, bling bling.

Great little hunt Nugget.


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15 September 2016 08:11 pm

It was Ramjet, the funny thing is my young fella kept telling me "Dad, there's no treasure here, lets go play on the equipment", but I showed him that perseverance pays off in the end, AND he even got to play on the equipment at the end lol

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15 September 2016 08:12 pm

Win Win big_smile


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15 September 2016 08:16 pm

Going real well. What does the "i" stand for, not Pi is it?


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Nugget
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15 September 2016 08:19 pm

As in the "i" after the 400? International, it just differs slightly from the US version.

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15 September 2016 08:21 pm

Nice ring spill mate, is the one with the stone a Pandora? I've found a couple of similar ones. smile


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Nugget
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15 September 2016 08:41 pm

The two without stones have Pandora's S925 ALE markings but the one with the stone only has 925 stamped on it.

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28 September 2016 05:06 pm

A quick update for you guys..

I've been out a few more times picking up mainly modern coins (which is to be expected where I'm currently hunting), and I'm really enjoying using this detector, not just for it's simplicity but also how much power Garrett have packed into such a small, lightweight unit. It's truly a $1 and $2 magnet and hits hard on silver, and I honestly think for anyone contemplating getting an AT Pro but lack the funds or simply can't justify the purchase, the 400i is a very good choice.

Anyway, I've got a new spot in mind for the long weekend so I'll post up any finds of interest.

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28 September 2016 05:12 pm

P.S. for those of you playing at home, here's a list of common VDI numbers based on my testing. More to follow.

5 cent - ID 64
10 cent - ID 72
20 cent - ID 79
50 cent - ID 80
$1 - ID 84/85
$2 - ID 83/84
.500 Shilling - ID 85
.925 Shilling - ID 92
.500 Sixpence - ID 83/84
.925 Sixpence - ID 88/89
.925 Threepence - ID 84/85
1966 Round 50 cent - ID 98
.925 Ring (medium thickness) - ID 90/93
9K Gold Ring (medium thickness) - ID 76
18k Gold Ring (medium thickness) - 77-78
Pull Tab - ID 74/76

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29 September 2016 09:32 am

The 400i is my first metal detector so I have nothing to compare it to (except my gold racer and they are completely different machines) but I love it.

I am glad i got the 400i rather than the 200i/300i for the iron audio. That has saved a lot of digging. I cracked the $200 in goldies yesterday so I have almost paid for the upgrade. Without the iron audio bottle tops can sound awesome but flick on the iron audio and time to move on. The odd goldie can have a little iron crackle (maybe the soil?) but nothing compared to most bottle tops. You still dig some bottle tops but I hate to think how many more I would have had to dig to get my fortune. It is those pesky soft drink bottle tops which have mastered their ability to disguise themselves as a goldie.

I also like how the 12 target segments panned out. I mostly use the custom setting and select the last 2 segments and everything above 83 pings. So I believe I am getting all the goldies and predecimals (where is that florin? - I believe both the pre and post 45 florins should ping above 83? Got any of those Nugget?). The odd $2 will ping one way (83) but is silent (82) on the way back but I just keep my eye on the screen and dig. I know I am missing the silver coins and gold rings but I am close to incorporating a dig all approach again at times...just hooked on the goldies atm.

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29 September 2016 10:22 am

I try not to rely too much on the iron audio feature but do use it before digging most targets simply to hear and learn the response of each. I've found in the particular ground I'm hunting atm that most modern coins produce at least a little iron grunt, apart from the goldies all modern coins are coming out of the ground black, so whether or not this has anything to do with it or if it's the soil I'm not entirely sure until I move onto new ground. You're right in that bottle tops will produce a greater and more obvious response, and with a little practice it's pretty easy to tell the difference.

I too occasionally notch out everything except the last two notches targeting only silver and goldies, this is quite effective in really trashy or well manicured ground but it's also good for those times when you're short on time and don't want to dig a lot of rubbish.

I'll crack open my silver collection a little later to see if I have any florins, if I find one I'll do an air test for you and report the VDI number. I'm certain a florin will ping well above 83 so you should be right with your current settings.


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