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Baldy
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05 February 2016 11:38 am

Our State gov has locked up one of our only and closest Fossicking areas in SA..This is an important resource for newbies and experienced people alike..Every where you go gates are locked and you are expected to climb over fences..And no car parking..Well I don't think this is good enough , and things will have to change..They want us to pay $5 for the privilege ..Forestry should get the hell out of there..and solely be for Fossicking..With basic facilities ..am wondering the best course of action..? Cheers

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dam it
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05 February 2016 11:49 am

Very interesting another area LOCKED DOWN . yikes
Youre right it,s not good enough . mad


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05 February 2016 11:59 am

Need that button on here so we can get 5 000 signatures at the click of a button ( by mod approval and action through pm's and E-mails). yikes wink


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05 February 2016 12:18 pm

That would be a great idea Silver, there is power in numbers, Australians haven't been very militant since the Eureka stockade ..So they think we will go away after a while..This is a case of Forrestry taking over and saying F you..Families should have access , camp there,not have to jump fences..Miners were there before forestry..They can piss off.

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05 February 2016 12:21 pm

The way things are heading, soon we will only be able to prospect in our back yards, not in the font yard in case we offend some race colour or religion, or maybe even upset the south African trotting duck, the way I see it is it is our own fault, as being an Aussie the only thing we will fight for is our right to be apathetic, in some 3rd world countries, if the government does something people don't like, someone would blow them up, not suggesting we should do that or that Australia is not the best place in the world to live, but governments should be in fear of the people not the people in fear of the governments. Fear of being held accountable that is

Sorry for the rant but


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05 February 2016 12:45 pm

Does any one live out that way


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dam it
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05 February 2016 01:16 pm

Christos57 wrote:

The way things are heading, soon we will only be able to prospect in our back yards, not in the font yard in case we offend some race colour or religion, or maybe even upset the south African trotting duck, the way I see it is it is our own fault, as being an Aussie the only thing we will fight for is our right to be apathetic, in some 3rd world countries, if the government does something people don't like, someone would blow them up, not suggesting we should do that or that Australia is not the best place in the world to live, but governments should be in fear of the people not the people in fear of the governments. Fear of being held accountable that is

Sorry for the rant but

Thats not a rant
Its what most of us thinking . smile


Thats going straight to the Pool Room .....

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05 February 2016 02:58 pm

On just reading this post I was compelled to ring the Mount Crawford Forestry's Dept, to enquire ...

I was told that there has been no closures except on fire band days ... so I asked about closed gates .. advised that the road gates are closed to the public to stop illegal dumping and car burnings plus undesirable driving off road.

I asked.. .do people have to climb the gates / fences to gain entry? ... No. there are access points where you can walk in, even ride a house or mountain bike.

$5 a day or $10 a week still applies to go fossicking.

Cheers Peter.


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05 February 2016 03:17 pm

Find out who the local mwmbwr is and start complaining straight away. yikes


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05 February 2016 03:25 pm

Hi Pete, it's these roads and gates That should be open..I think they would be gazetted public roads ,they have road names and on the map..Outside there is no where to park, and you have to leave your car miles away..burning cars and shite is not our problem..we should not be punished because of it..Most places I have wanted to go I've had to climb over gates, these roads are locked up ,and you have to climb the fence..We have a lot of gear and would prefer to be close to my car..as we all would..It is run by our gov for us they should be doing a better job of it ..When I asked about the road closures I was told it was because of forestry machinery using them, to which I replied , you could put signs up saying the road is being used by logging trucks like they do in NSW..So I don't know what the real issue is..They don't own it they just manage it for us after all ..They have no right to lock those gates..

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05 February 2016 04:02 pm

Dreamwalking wrote:

On just reading this post I was compelled to ring the Mount Crawford Forestry's Dept, to enquire ...

I was told that there has been no closures except on fire band days ... so I asked about closed gates .. advised that the road gates are closed to the public to stop illegal dumping and car burnings plus undesirable driving off road.

I asked.. .do people have to climb the gates / fences to gain entry? ... No. there are access points where you can walk in, even ride a house or mountain bike.

$5 a day or $10 a week still applies to go fossicking.

Cheers Peter.

Thanks Peter

I thought it strange because back in the 80's I was a logger for the SA Forestry and even then they would close gates, for similar reasons even if we were working in the general area, but I suppose it was OK for us because we all had keys...

My point is, locking the gates is not new

Bazz


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05 February 2016 04:18 pm

You always get a laugh on this forum,Dreamwalker ,s got us riding houses,,I'm trying to picture that..


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05 February 2016 04:22 pm

The problem I have is that it's a declared Fossicking area..we are not just fossicking in any state forest..This is our area set aside for us not just the lucky ones with keys..


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05 February 2016 04:44 pm

Yeah Baldy,
That is a very good point, I wasn't into hunting the yella back then, but I suspect that it wasn't a declared fossicking area........

I suppose it's another case of some slob sitting their big fat chair on their big fat bum (oops! can you bum??? wink ) making decisions that they have no idea about......

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05 February 2016 04:58 pm

I will show them the error ,of their ways..Never Trust Your Government.


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05 February 2016 05:07 pm

Baldy, I've been down to Mt Crawford during the week and there are gates locked so that Forestry can work in an area. I don't have any hassles with that. Hell, I wouldn't want to come across a 22wheeler carrying logs when they are working. Havent been there on weekends for a while but on most weekends, I understand the mountain bikers use the trails to ride their bikes - hardly a lock out!
When I have been there I have always been able to get in, maybe not to where I'd like to have got, but been able to get in none-the-less. As far as the $5 goes, I gather its so forestry can know who's using the place in case of fires etc.


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05 February 2016 05:22 pm

I will go there next week and put pressure on them about these locked gates , and if their not working ! I want to drive in .and I think if your not out by 4 you get locked in..I would like to see that..


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05 February 2016 07:13 pm

Oh come on guys .. its not that hard to adapt to the conditions at Mt Crawford ... traded in my quad bike and now I think I am in front with no more fuel costs or punctures to repair and I am not going to use a pooper scooper either.!!

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Baldy .. I think its time for me to spend more time proof reading so I don't have you all riding houses ...LOL


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05 February 2016 07:16 pm

As a south Australian down here in Mt Gambier.....SA is so backwards its ridiculous. I have never even contemplated prospecting up there because it just seems too hard. Yes the distance is an issue but I would happily use my $17 for 10 year Vic miners right and access any of the free entry state forests over the border. Understandably you guys up in Adelaide are up against it. The way the SA government behaves is a disgrace and all their laws do is promote people to do the wrong thing...or should I say the 'illegal' thing.

another rant over tongue


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06 February 2016 07:53 am

Crawford is backwards,I've spoke to people in there who have obtained a key from the head office,but when I've been in and asked for a key I've been told that they don't give out keys,I've even phone the head office in mount gambier and asked them,even said it could be a health and safety issue,fire,twisted ankle,snakes bites even,some of the spots in Crawford are so far in if you were bitten by a snake you would never make it back to your car,anyone who has a permit should be able to gain access,as they have all your details on the permit!!!


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06 February 2016 08:24 am

Ok here is a course of action to persue ..what if it was a danger to have these roads closed off in the case of a fire ..if these are public roads ? They are named roads..on a map..isn't it a public danger to have them locked..


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06 February 2016 08:33 am

I think the only public roads are watts gully road and rocky creek road


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Baldy
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06 February 2016 08:41 am

I don't know ,a lot of them are named roads,whether they are public or not will have to investigate..can be public roads going through private property even..I think if it is marked on a map as a road and it's being locked ,blocking someone's exit in a fire .should be addressed ..They can unlock them every day, nothing them..

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06 February 2016 10:06 am

I asked.. .do people have to climb the gates / fences to gain entry? ... No. there are access points where you can walk in, even ride a house or mountain bike.....So really we are being discriminated against...houses/horses and mountain bikes are modes of transport, just the same as our car..we are locked out and they are not..we are the one paying the fee ..free for them......................................................Yesterday 04:37 pm
Baldy, I've been down to Mt Crawford during the week and there are gates locked so that Forestry can work in an area. I don't have any hassles with that. Hell, I wouldn't want to come across a 22wheeler carrying logs when they are working. Havent been there on weekends for a while but on most weekends, I understand the mountain bikers use the trails to ride their bikes - hardly a lock out!
When I have been there I have always been able to get in, maybe not to where I'd like to have got, but been able to get in none-the-less. As far as the $5 goes, I gather its so forestry can know who's using the place in case of fires etc.....Forestry are not working in those areas they are locked all the time..22 wheelers they should post signs logging trucks using this road..common practice elsewhere ..mountain bikers use the trails (hardly a lock out) no not for them..(forestry wanting to know who,s using the place in case of a fire)..what a bout horse people ...bike people ..Discrimination ..

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06 February 2016 11:35 am

Spoke to one of the guys at Mt Crawford this morning,he was very helpful..I think after speaking to him the problem is the ability to lock up at 4 pm and go home..They feel they to keep the idiots out after hrs..but said we weren't the idiots..other people..They don't want to chase us to make sure we're out..anyway 4 pm lock out so Bs anyway..So it's really about going home time..


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